+1 to preserving the archive links, of course. I'll add that having to moderate lists using Mailman gives me a conniption.
Google Group's spam handling and moderation tools aren't perfect, but they destroy Mailman's from a day-to-day mgmt perspective. Chris On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:05 PM, David Recordon <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I don't see how we could make this change without both preserving > the archives at their current URLs and importing the mailing list > history into the new groups. > > --David > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Mike Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Would the existing archives be preserved, including the links to the > messages? They're an important part of the archives of the organization, > and I would be against a change where they're lost. > > > > -- Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Recordon > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:44 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: OpenID Board (public) > > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [OpenID] Google Groups for your domain > > > > Hey Mike, > > Mailman is quite painful to administer and the web archives are > > archaic. Google Groups removes all of the administration headaches, > > makes it drastically easier to moderate a mailing list, and provides a > > modern public web interface which includes powerful search > > functionality. > > > > The only reason we didn't move to Google Groups a few years ago was > > that they weren't offerred on your own domain name. > > > > --David > > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:41 AM, Mike Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Maybe I missed the thread, but what is the advantage of making a change > when we already have working mailing lists? There seems like more risk than > benefit to doing this. > >> > >> -- Mike > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Recordon > >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:32 PM > >> To: Nat Sakimura > >> Cc: OpenID Board (public); [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [OpenID] Google Groups for your domain > >> > >> Hey Nat, > >> Why do we need a motion? Not a single person objected when I started > >> the thread. > >> > >> Less bureaucracy, not more. :) > >> > >> --David > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Nat Sakimura <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> Let us make this to an item for the next board meeting so that we can > >>> make a motion to do it. > >>> > >>> I am +1 on making transition as long as it can be done smoothly. > >>> At the same time, we must make a habit of doing it a bit more formally > >>> than just making move. > >>> > >>> The same applies to the move to github from svn.openid.net. > >>> (Though, this one may have some implication because it changes the > domain name > >>> and github is harder to go through corporate firewalls.) > >>> > >>> =nat > >>> > >>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Chris Messina < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Moving this to the board list, since I'd like to see action/outcome > taken > >>>> against Dave's proposal. > >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM, David Recordon <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm going to ask the Google folks if they can set us up with a Google > >>>>> Apps account and see what's involved in converting over and importing > >>>>> our mailing lists. > >>>> > >>>> Dave: any follow up on this? 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