>> Google Group's spam handling and moderation tools aren't perfect, but they destroy Mailman's from a day-to-day mgmt perspective.
There was apparently some massive improvement in spam handling pushed out last week to Google Groups. I don't know that team will, but I heard they had a big party after seeing the results. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Chris Messina <[email protected]>wrote: > +1 to preserving the archive links, of course. > > I'll add that having to moderate lists using Mailman gives me a conniption. > > Google Group's spam handling and moderation tools aren't perfect, but they > destroy Mailman's from a day-to-day mgmt perspective. > > Chris > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:05 PM, David Recordon <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Yes, I don't see how we could make this change without both preserving >> the archives at their current URLs and importing the mailing list >> history into the new groups. >> >> --David >> >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Mike Jones <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Would the existing archives be preserved, including the links to the >> messages? They're an important part of the archives of the organization, >> and I would be against a change where they're lost. >> > >> > -- Mike >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Recordon >> > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:44 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Cc: OpenID Board (public) >> > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [OpenID] Google Groups for your domain >> > >> > Hey Mike, >> > Mailman is quite painful to administer and the web archives are >> > archaic. Google Groups removes all of the administration headaches, >> > makes it drastically easier to moderate a mailing list, and provides a >> > modern public web interface which includes powerful search >> > functionality. >> > >> > The only reason we didn't move to Google Groups a few years ago was >> > that they weren't offerred on your own domain name. >> > >> > --David >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:41 AM, Mike Jones < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Maybe I missed the thread, but what is the advantage of making a change >> when we already have working mailing lists? There seems like more risk than >> benefit to doing this. >> >> >> >> -- Mike >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Recordon >> >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:32 PM >> >> To: Nat Sakimura >> >> Cc: OpenID Board (public); [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] [OpenID] Google Groups for your domain >> >> >> >> Hey Nat, >> >> Why do we need a motion? Not a single person objected when I started >> >> the thread. >> >> >> >> Less bureaucracy, not more. :) >> >> >> >> --David >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Nat Sakimura <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Let us make this to an item for the next board meeting so that we can >> >>> make a motion to do it. >> >>> >> >>> I am +1 on making transition as long as it can be done smoothly. >> >>> At the same time, we must make a habit of doing it a bit more formally >> >>> than just making move. >> >>> >> >>> The same applies to the move to github from svn.openid.net. >> >>> (Though, this one may have some implication because it changes the >> domain name >> >>> and github is harder to go through corporate firewalls.) >> >>> >> >>> =nat >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Chris Messina < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> Moving this to the board list, since I'd like to see action/outcome >> taken >> >>>> against Dave's proposal. >> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM, David Recordon <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I'm going to ask the Google folks if they can set us up with a >> Google >> >>>>> Apps account and see what's involved in converting over and >> importing >> >>>>> our mailing lists. >> >>>> >> >>>> Dave: any follow up on this? 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