My sense is that Darren spent sometime between 1-3 hours on the last election,
doing things we asked him to do. Don or John Ehrig should be able to find
records of billed hours.
-- Mike
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[mailto:openid-board-boun...@lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Nat Sakimura
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:24 AM
To: Don Thibeau
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Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Infrastructure update
Then what is the likely amount in reality? Past track record would help.
Nat
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Don Thibeau <d...@oidf.org> wrote:
> The $5k number was the upper range for a disputed election.
>
> Don Thibeau
> The OpenID Foundation
>
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Nat Sakimura wrote:
>
> My concern was the cost estimate that we previously had for each voting.
> The number quoted this May was in the range of 5000 dollars, which is
> significant.
> We will have a series of elections and voting in the coming months,
> and if they were $5000 a piece, we should seriously think about what
> we can do to mitigate the problem.
>
> Nat
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Mike Jones <michael.jo...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>> As for voting, unless the proposed alternative voting system enables proxy
>> voting and voting using members registered OpenIDs, we can't use it without
>> a change to the IPR process (which requires a vote of the membership to do).
>> Also, for reasons of supporting our own technologies, I believe that we
>> want to continue having people vote with their registered OpenIDs.
>>
>> Having been on the elections committee as long as we've had elections, my
>> sense is that we've gotten the bugs out of the election system by now, and
>> it meets our needs. Besides, it's paid for. Integrating a new voting
>> system into our existing membership software (or creating new membership
>> software) would both be costs we would have to understand before undertaking
>> any changes in that regard.
>>
>> My sense is that the remaining costs of using it have to do with us
>> having Darren do things that we could do for ourselves. (If there's
>> any reason we can't do them ourselves, we should remedy that before
>> or during this upcoming election.)
>>
>> I *do* think we should monitor the costs of running the 2013 election with
>> the current software so that we have data to base any decision to make a
>> change (or not make a change) on.
>>
>> -- Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: openid-board-boun...@lists.openid.net
>> [mailto:openid-board-boun...@lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Nat
>> Sakimura
>> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 4:42 PM
>> To: bo...@openid.net; Don Thibeau (OIDF ED)
>> Subject: [OpenID board] Infrastructure update
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> Another issue that the board has to tackle is the infrastructure update.
>> As I understand, the current infrastructure is very expensive to run an
>> election/membership voting.
>>
>> At the same time, you have been indicating the intension to move the current
>> web page infrastructure from Wordpress to Drupal.
>> I suspect these two are dealt with together.
>>
>> I would appreciate any update on it in the next EC call so that we can
>> report it back to the board.
>>
>> FYI, I have built a Drupal site that copied most of the Wordpress content
>> with the URLs intact.
>> Drupal also has a module called Advanced Voting, which seems to be capable
>> of doing the voting that does not reveal the result until it is closed.
>> With a shopping card module, it seems it is capable to unify the copropate
>> website, membership, and the voting capability.
>>
>> --
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>> http://nat.sakimura.org/
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