+1 on email address metadata, many RPs definitely want this.
Cheers,
Brian
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:openid-specs-
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allen Tom
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:46 PM
To: Peter Watkins; Chris Obdam; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Yahoo available AX attrs
Oops - I clicked send too early.
The bad UX with AX is the security warning that most browsers
display when
POSTing a form from HTTPS to HTTP, which is the case when the
Yahoo OP
returns a lot of attributes. AX attribute names are excessively
long, so
it's very likely that using different attribute names for first/
last/middle
name will cause the response to be returned via POST. (2KB is the
cutoff
point)
With regards to email address - unless we're 100% sure about the
email
address, we'd like to return metadata about the email address.
Specifically,
we'd like to indicate whether or not the email address was
verified, and if
so, when it was verified. This is definitely something that we'd
like to get
in to AX 2.0.
Allen
On 12/7/09 7:39 PM, "Allen Tom" <[email protected]> wrote:
> It definitely makes sense to use different attributes for
givennanme/surname
> so that RPs don't have to parse the string, and a few other RPs
have also
> asked for it. Our initial goal for our AX implementation was
just to match
> SREG, and SREG only has a single openid.sreg.fullname attribute.
>
> We'll add support for separate first/last/middle/suffix
attributes in a
> followup release - probably early next year. I do hope that
we're able to
> standardize the attribute names, and also keep them short and
compact. If you
> ask for all our supported attributes, the response will exceed
2KB, which
> requires that the response is returned via POST, causing a
really bad UX.
>
> With regards to email address - we'd like to be able to return
metadata about
> the email address w
>
>
>
> On 12/7/09 7:25 AM, "Peter Watkins" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:16:46AM +0100, Chris Obdam wrote:
>>>> Chris (Obdam) - which additional attributes would you like
to see
>>>> available? The attributes that we’ll be adding early next
year will include
>>>> Yahoo Profile URL and account creation date. A bunch of
people have asked
>>>> for Flickr Photos URL and Upcoming Profile URL, so we’ll
probably get
>>>> around
>>>> to adding those too.
>>> I would like to access every attr specified in de AXschema? :-)
>>>
>>> In my Yahoo profile i have provided my address (home and
work). I would like
>>> to use those in a sign form somewhere else.
>>> Same goes for my phone numbers.
>>
>> So would I. One of the simpler goals of our Single Sign On is
prepopulating
>> form fields; having postal address and phone number would be a
help.
>>
>> I'd also like to see First and Last names available as
separate attributes,
>> otherwise we're trying to intelligently split both "Mary Jane
Parker" and
>> "Malcom Mac Murray".
>>
>> Also I would prefer that you give us the user's *primary*
email address. In
>> my Yahoo profile, my Yahoo email address is flagged as "Share
with no one"
>> and I have a different email address flagged as primary, but
your AX sends
>> my yahoo email address. That's bad from usability in part
because I very,
>> very seldom check my Yahoo email inbox.
>>
>> The Yahoo website attribute would also be nice to have; as we
start
>> building more "social" features on our sites, it would be nice
to make
>> it easier for our users to share links to their primary web
presences,
>> although I can understand if Yahoo management prefers to only
expose the
>> Profile URL for business reasons.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Peter
>>
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