Sounds like something to add to PoCo... perhaps something as simple as a
"verified" boolean added to email addresses?

http://portablecontacts.net/draft-schema.html#anchor4

Chris

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Brian Kissel <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1 on email address metadata, many RPs definitely want this.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Allen Tom
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:46 PM
> To: Peter Watkins; Chris Obdam; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Yahoo available AX attrs
>
> Oops - I clicked send too early.
>
> The bad UX with AX is the security warning that most browsers display when
> POSTing a form from HTTPS to HTTP, which is the case when the Yahoo OP
> returns a lot of attributes. AX attribute names are excessively long, so
> it's very likely that using different attribute names for first/last/middle
> name will cause the response to be returned via POST. (2KB is the cutoff
> point)
>
> With regards to email address - unless we're 100% sure about the email
> address, we'd like to return metadata about the email address.
> Specifically,
> we'd like to indicate whether or not the email address was verified, and if
> so, when it was verified. This is definitely something that we'd like to
> get
> in to AX 2.0.
>
> Allen
>
>
>
> On 12/7/09 7:39 PM, "Allen Tom" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It definitely makes sense to use different attributes for
> givennanme/surname
> > so that RPs don't have to parse the string, and a few other RPs have also
> > asked for it.  Our initial goal for our AX implementation was just to
> match
> > SREG, and SREG only has a single openid.sreg.fullname attribute.
> >
> > We'll add support for separate first/last/middle/suffix attributes in a
> > followup release - probably early next year. I do hope that we're able to
> > standardize the attribute names, and also keep them short and compact. If
> you
> > ask for all our supported attributes, the response will exceed 2KB, which
> > requires that the response is returned via POST, causing a really bad UX.
> >
> > With regards to email address - we'd like to be able to return metadata
> about
> > the email address w
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/7/09 7:25 AM, "Peter Watkins" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:16:46AM +0100, Chris Obdam wrote:
> >>>> Chris (Obdam)  - which additional attributes would you like to see
> >>>> available? The attributes that we¹ll be adding early next year will
> include
> >>>> Yahoo Profile URL and account creation date. A bunch of people have
> asked
> >>>> for Flickr Photos URL and Upcoming Profile URL, so we¹ll probably get
> >>>> around
> >>>> to adding those too.
> >>> I would like to access every attr specified in de AXschema? :-)
> >>>
> >>> In my Yahoo profile i have provided my address (home and work). I would
> like
> >>> to use those in a sign form somewhere else.
> >>> Same goes for my phone numbers.
> >>
> >> So would I. One of the simpler goals of our Single Sign On is
> prepopulating
> >> form fields; having postal address and phone number would be a help.
> >>
> >> I'd also like to see First and Last names available as separate
> attributes,
> >> otherwise we're trying to intelligently split both "Mary Jane Parker"
> and
> >> "Malcom Mac Murray".
> >>
> >> Also I would prefer that you give us the user's *primary* email address.
> In
> >> my Yahoo profile, my Yahoo email address is flagged as "Share with no
> one"
> >> and I have a different email address flagged as primary, but your AX
> sends
> >> my yahoo email address. That's bad from usability in part because I
> very,
> >> very seldom check my Yahoo email inbox.
> >>
> >> The Yahoo website attribute would also be nice to have; as we start
> >> building more "social" features on our sites, it would be nice to make
> >> it easier for our users to share links to their primary web presences,
> >> although I can understand if Yahoo management prefers to only expose the
> >> Profile URL for business reasons.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
>
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