Out of curiosity, beyond the email discussion below what are the primary metadata needs around the other major (PoCo) fields?

Speaking to the use-cases I work off of here at PBS, I'm primarily concerned about emails being verified (and a signup date is also useful) and am most inclined to trust the OP (especially if it were a white-listed or otherwise vetted iDP).

Jonathan


On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Chris Messina wrote:

Is it worth looking at how Facebook handles the passing of profile data? Or is their architecture/use case different?

http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Users.getInfo

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Breno de Medeiros <[email protected]> wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM, John Panzer <[email protected]> wrote: > For "one-time" URLs, you'd probably want to allow for retries for a short
> period (or just allow it to be accessed for say 5m) which would have
> approximately the same level of protection.
> You could also imagine long-lived capabilities along the lines of OAuth > tokens that allow RPs to repeatedly refresh the data as needed. (Better of > course if they can subscribe to changes, but that's an implementation detail
> and definitely a separate spec.)
> Given that AX already supports requesting URL-valued data (e.g., profile > photos) I think this just comes down to defining a fairly complicated data
> type for AX and passing a URL around.

A more lightweight alternative is to adopt an 'artifact' mode where
most of the OpenID assertion (request and response) can be passed in
the backchannel. That is a bit more difficult to implement but easier
to spec (because the existing URLs can be used) and more general
(compacts all extensions, not only AX).

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> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Peter Watkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 10:32:12AM -0800, John Panzer wrote:
>>
>> > provide to RPs. If you send an endpoint URL to the RP instead of the >> > information itself, the RP can then retrieve it via a backchannel (and
>> > cache
>> > it). If you have private data, use a capability URL with a token that
>> > allows read-only access.
>>
>> Exactly. OpenID requests and responses are very chatty, and backchannel >> URLs could be an easy way to get around the 2k GET limit (the cost of >> course being additional time needed to make the additional HTTP requests).
>>
>> I don't see any reason for backchannel URLs to be requested multiple
>> times,
>> so in addition to a request or response using strongly random nonces in >> the backchannel URLs, the backchannel URLs should be very short- lived, >> probably each side "SHOULD" allow a URL to be requested only once, and
>> throw a 403/404 for subsequent requests.
>>
>> Is there any draft of AX using backchannel URLs?
>>
>> -Peter
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