Actually, I think Gravatar is absolutely related to OpenID, from a
number of perspectives.

For one thing, all Gravatar accounts are keyed off of email addresses
-- and many sites use Gravatar silently to autofill a user's profile
photo/avatar on signup by pinging Gravatar with the hash of the user's
email address.

Second, this process of doing a third party lookup on an identifier
and getting back metadata could be useful for reputation services,
preference delivery, and so on (i.e. 4th party-provided discovery).

Third, it suggests that whatever metadata the user doesn't provide
herself, a site author may attempt to harvest elsewhere.

It just reinforces the value of adding profile-photo/logo/avatar data
into AX and SREG.

Chris

On Wednesday, December 9, 2009, Jonathan Coffman
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Santosh, you're absolutely right, the Gravatar service doesn't actually have 
> anything to do with OpenID -- but rather is the best example I can find of 
> making profile pictures even remotely portable between sites.
> What I was trying to get across was that I think it would be worthwhile to 
> think about how something like AX might in the future be able to support 
> transporting information about the user's preferred profile pic alongside the 
> rest of their information.
> Jonathan
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Santosh Rajan wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
> I haven't seen you before around here. My apologies. I may have missed your 
> earlier posts. Can you please explain how avatars (or gravatars) are related 
> to OpenID?
>  ThanksSantosh
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Jonathan Coffman <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>  Avatars would definitely be huge. I can't tell you how frustrating it is as 
> a user to update my avatar on all of the hundreds of sites I may encounter 
> that require login.
> Professionally, I've run into problems when bringing up Gravatar as a 
> potential option... but again, that sets the bar so high that users are 
> pretty unlikely to even go through that process.
>  Jonathan
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:09 AM, Chris Messina wrote:
>  +1. I think those are the basic profile building blocks for social software. 
> The avatar is something we particularly need for openid.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 2G
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 22:06, John Panzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> For my use cases, the important things are, unscientifically,
> 1. Display name2. Avatar / photo3. Preferred link to human-readable online 
> presence -- profile, blog, whatever strikes their fancy.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM, David Recordon <[email protected]> wrote:
>   I'm sure that the data is wildly out of date, but at the time the SREG
>  fields 
> ( <http://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registration-extension-1_0.html#response_format>http://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registration-extension-1_0.html#response_format)
>  were based on looking at what a few hundred different sites were
>  asking for.
>
>  I unscientifically think that the extremely common stuff is:
>   - Name
>   - Avatar / photo
>   - Email address
>
>  Scientifically, we should actually put some effort into looking at
>  sign in pages again. :)
>
>  --David
>
>  On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Jonathan Coffman
>  <[email protected]> wrote:
>  > Out of curiosity, beyond the email discussion below what are the primary
>  > metadata needs around the other major (PoCo) fields?
>  > Speaking to the use-cases I work off of here at PBS, I'm primarily 
> concerned
>  > about emails being verified (and a signup date is also useful) and am most
>  > inclined to trust the OP (especially if it were a white-listed or otherwise
>  > vetted iDP).
>  > Jonathan
>  >
>  > On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Chris Messina wrote:
>  >
>  > Is it worth looking at how Facebook handles the passing of profile data? Or
>  > is their architecture/use case different?
>  >
>  >  
> <http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Users.getInfo>http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Users.getInfo
>  > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Breno de Medeiros <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:01 AM, John Panzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>  >> > For "o

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