While I am a fan of using tools to simplify our lives, I am concerned that we 
have setup a number of tools that seemed like a good idea and did not get 
utilized. 
I am fearful that community members will spend time on a new tool, only to be 
disappointed in lack of use.

How about we just use the wiki we have now to create a document we can all edit?

-- Dick

On 2010-05-24, at 7:24 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:

> There are various plans, but since OIDF is primarily operating in public,
> I should think that "Amateur" plan would suffice. It is US$5/mo.
> The limitation is that it can only have one private repository,
> but that should be ok.
> 
> =nat
> 
> (2010/05/25 1:56), Brian Kissel wrote:
>> What is the cost? The Tech Committee has some budget.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nat Sakimura
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:05 AM
>> To: Johannes Ernst
>> Cc: OpenID Specs Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] OpenID v.Next Discovery Working Group Proposal
>> 
>> Good idea.
>> 
>> I can setup a project under bitbucket.org/openid/ (shall we upgrade to
>> non-free version
>> so that we get it under openid.net?) and it has a rudimentary bug
>> tracking system.
>> It can be used by logging in by OpenID.
>> 
>> =nat
>> 
>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Johannes Ernst
>> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>>   
>>> Allen, combining what you just wrote with what Brian said on the board
>>> mailing list about MRDs -- perhaps it would make sense to set up a "bug
>>> tracking system" of some kind and use that to drive spec evolution?
>>> On May 23, 2010, at 18:56, Allen Tom wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Johannes,
>>> 
>>> There isn't a document summarizing the deficiencies with OpenID 2.0
>>> discovery - I think it would be very useful for the WG and for the
>>>     
>> Community
>>   
>>> if we wrote this down
>>> 
>>> Off the top of my head, some of the problems are:
>>> 
>>> Yadis discovery is very vague as to exactly how the RP is supposed to
>>>     
>> fetch
>>   
>>> the OP's discovery document. Should it send the magic Accept header?
>>>     
>> Look
>>   
>>> for the X-XRDS-Location header in the response? Do HTML discovery? In
>>> practice, many implementers have had problems implementing discovery
>>>     
>> because
>>   
>>> there are too many ways to do it
>>> Speaking of Yadis, the specs need to be revised, and it's unclear how to
>>>     
>> go
>>   
>>> about doing this
>>> Because a compromised discovery document can result in the complete
>>> breakdown in OpenID security - it's important that we find ways to
>>>     
>> increase
>>   
>>> the security of discovery - perhaps it can be signed? Moved into DNS?
>>> Discovery is hard to implement - the majority of the code in OpenID
>>> libraries is to implement discovery. We can probably simplify discovery
>>>     
>> to
>>   
>>> require less code to implement
>>> Delegation is a really useful feature in OpenID - it was pretty
>>> straightforward in OpenID 1.1, but is very confusing (to say the least)
>>>     
>> in
>>   
>>> OpenID 2.0 - we can probably do something in discovery to make
>>>     
>> delegation
>>   
>>> work better
>>> The infamous NASCAR problem could possibly be helped by discovery
>>> The infamous phishing problem could also possibly be helped by discovery
>>> LRDD, host-meta, and webfinger are pretty interesting - we should see
>>>     
>> how
>>   
>>> OpenID can leverage these new specs
>>> 
>>> I'm sure that there are more issues with OpenID 2.0 discovery. Anyone
>>>     
>> else
>>   
>>> want to take a stab at it?
>>> 
>>> Allen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/21/10 7:55 PM, "Johannes Ernst"<[email protected]>
>>>     
>> wrote:
>>   
>>> On May 21, 2010, at 19:28, Allen Tom wrote:
>>> 
>>> ... there's universal consensus that the existing OpenID 2.0 discovery
>>> mechanism is very deficient ...
>>> 
>>> Is there a summary somewhere of this "universal consensus" of
>>>     
>> deficiencies?
>>   
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Johannes Ernst
>>> NetMesh Inc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>   
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