My 2-cents (and more RP perspective coming soon from me):

While I totally understand the desire to forge ahead and do something amazing with "Connect" or "v.Next" -- I don't think we necessarily want to loose all backwards compatibility, getting RPs to upgrade to new, incompatible specs is a battle that would require a very large number of resources, resources the OIDF just doesn't have.

-Jonathan

On May 25, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Martin Atkins wrote:

On 05/25/2010 01:56 PM, Allen Tom wrote:
Hi All,

A better way to look at OpenID Connect is to just think of it as revised version of the OpenID Hybrid. The purpose of the Hybrid WG was to find a way to combine OpenID Authentication with the approval of an Oauth access token
into a single request/response.


"OpenID Connect" isn't actually compatible with OpenID at anything but the highest conceptual level.

Renaming the OpenID Connect WG to be the OpenID Hybrid v2 WG could possibly clarify the goals of the WG, and reduce confusion within the community. Afterall - Hybrid is intended for the case where the user's IdP is also the SP, so the Connect proposal is really a revised Hybrid proposal, rather than
a proposal for OpenID v.Next


I think this would only make sense if the resulting protocol were functionally equivalent to OpenID. That is to say that I can implement it against my existing OpenID infrastructure without doing data migrations, changing my UI, etc.

I think the most important deviation in OpenID Connect is that the identifier is no longer expected to be human-readable; while I completely agree that this is the right design if we're starting over from a clean slate, that's a breaking change for most existing consumer implementations that link to the identifier as the user's "home page" or "profile page".

I still think this thing should be branded with a stronger OAuth connotation than an OpenID connotation, since it's far closer to OAuth than it is to OpenID. I didn't really like the OpenID Connect name, but at least it made it sound like this was something new and different; calling it OpenID/OAuth Hybrid makes it sound a lot more like a different implementation of the same thing than the radical rethink that OpenID Connect actually represents.

That's my two cents, at least.



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