Hi Chris,

Thanks for getting this out.

In my view, you should leave support for active clients in scope for 
consideration by the working group since having an active client definitely 
should impact the RP user experience.  For instance, if you have identity in 
the browser, you probably want the RP to be aware of it and delegate some or 
all of the identity UX to the active client, rather than handling it itself by 
putting up a NASCAR screen, etc.

                                                            Thanks,
                                                            -- Mike

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Messina
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 4:40 PM
To: Dick Hardt
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Specs-ui] [OIDFSC] Draft OpenID 2.x User Experience working group 
charter

No, there hasn't been any consensus about renaming it. I'm putting it out there 
as a draft for discussion.

I'll take that as one vote for keeping that line in the charter. Looking 
forward to other feedback!

Chris

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Dick Hardt 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Chris,

I have not seen any consensus to renaming v.Next to 2.x. Having said that, I 
don't think this WG needs to have a version does it?

I think this work would be really useful to the full spectrum of clients.

-- Dick


On 2010-05-31, at 3:27 PM, Chris Messina wrote:


Mike Jones prepared the initial version of this charter, and I took the liberty 
of renaming v.Next to 2.x, and made compatibility with 2.x an explicit goal of 
this work.

I'm reluctant of the applicability of this work to active clients and have 
subsequently removed this line:

*        produce user experience guidelines for supporting for a spectrum of 
clients, including passive clients per current usage, thin active clients, and 
active clients with OP functionality,

Feedback welcome.

Chris

(a)  Charter.

(i)       WG name:  OpenID 2.x User Experience.

(ii)      Purpose:  Produce a user experience specification or family of 
specifications for OpenID 2.x that address the limitations and drawbacks 
present in the OpenID 2.0 that limit OpenID's applicability, adoption, 
usability, privacy, and security. Specific goals are:

*        produce user experience guidelines for less intrusive authentication 
user experiences than full-page browser redirect,

*        produce user experience guidelines for controlled and uncontrolled 
release of attributes,

*        produce user experience guidelines for use of identities and 
attributes by non-browser applications,

*        produce user experience guidelines for optimized protocol flows 
combining authentication, attribute release, and resource authorization,

*        produce user experience guidelines for use of OpenID on mobile devices,

*        seamlessly integrate with and complement the other OpenID 2.x 
specifications.



Compatibility with OpenID 2.x is an explicit goal for this work.



(iii)     Scope:  Produce a current generation OpenID user experience 
specification or specifications, consistent with the purpose statement.

(iv)     Proposed List of Specifications:  OpenID 2.x User Experience and 
possibly related specifications.

(v)      Anticipated audience or users of the work:  Implementers of OpenID 
Providers, Relying Parties, Active Clients, and non-browser applications 
utilizing OpenID.

(vi)     Language in which the WG will conduct business:  English.

(vii)    Method of work:  E-mail discussions on the working group mailing list, 
working group conference calls, and face-to-face meetings at the Internet 
Identity Workshop and OpenID summits.

(viii)   Basis for determining when the work of the WG is completed:  Work will 
not be deemed to be complete until there is a consensus that the resulting 
protocol specification or family of specifications fulfills the working group 
goals.  Additional proposed changes beyond that initial consensus will be 
evaluated on the basis of whether they increase or decrease consensus within 
the working group.  The work will be completed once it is apparent that maximal 
consensus on the draft has been achieved, consistent with the purpose and scope.
(b)  Background Information.

(i)       Related work being done in other WGs or organizations:  Draft User 
Interface (UI) 
Extension<http://wiki.openid.net/OpenID-User-Interface-Work-Group-Proposal>. 
Kantara Universal Login Experience (ULX) 
<http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/ulx/> working group. RPX 
product design<http://rpxnow.com/>. Facebook Authentication 
Guidelines<http://developers.facebook.com/docs/authentication/>. Google user 
authentication research<http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/UXFedLogin>.

(ii)      Proposers:
Chris Messina, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (chair)
Dick Hardt, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Additional proposers to be added here

(iii)     Anticipated Contributions:  None.

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