Shade'n'others,

Research performed on federated identity at Cardiff University, supported by 
JISC, has suggested the opposite.  Users just wanted a consistent experience 
every time, and didn't enormously care what that experience happens to be.  So 
far as I'm aware, the analysis didn't include the NASCAR approach being used by 
OpenID parties as an option, because it simply doesn't scale for us with IdP's 
numbering in the 1000's.

http://www.jisc-collections.ac.uk/media/documents/jisc_collections/study-v1.0.pdf

I'm thus a supporter of the ULX work being done in Kantara, and although I'd 
Really Really prefer that the OpenID community be participants in the work 
that's already ongoing and yielding good results, there are probably advantages 
to any interface working group here too.

Take care,
Nate.

----- Original Message -----
From: "SitG Admin" <[email protected]>
To: "Peter Watkins" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2010 9:02:55 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: XAuth critiques

>>  This would certainly be a poor UI.  I can imagine better ones, but more to
>>  the point, the marketplace can decide what the best UI is in this case.
>
>Better ones like what?  I'm serious. The current XAuth spec has an 
>IdP/Extender
>deciding upfront which RP should be allowed to see the end user has a
>relationship to the IdP. I cannot imagine how you'd build a UI to fix that
>problem. If you can imagine a UI improvement, please describe it!

I believe John's argument here is that UI development can be crowd-sourced:

We *can* go to all the trouble of imagining better ones, but why 
*should* we when all the differently-thinking users out there will 
demand their own best changes once they see the prototype?

-Shade
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