Just a note: Proprietary UX in the IdP or browser can be a consistent
experience even if different users get different experiences.

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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Nate Klingenstein <[email protected]>wrote:

> Shade'n'others,
>
> Research performed on federated identity at Cardiff University, supported
> by JISC, has suggested the opposite.  Users just wanted a consistent
> experience every time, and didn't enormously care what that experience
> happens to be.  So far as I'm aware, the analysis didn't include the NASCAR
> approach being used by OpenID parties as an option, because it simply
> doesn't scale for us with IdP's numbering in the 1000's.
>
>
> http://www.jisc-collections.ac.uk/media/documents/jisc_collections/study-v1.0.pdf
>
> I'm thus a supporter of the ULX work being done in Kantara, and although
> I'd Really Really prefer that the OpenID community be participants in the
> work that's already ongoing and yielding good results, there are probably
> advantages to any interface working group here too.
>
> Take care,
> Nate.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SitG Admin" <[email protected]>
> To: "Peter Watkins" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2010 9:02:55 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
> Subject: Re: XAuth critiques
>
> >>  This would certainly be a poor UI.  I can imagine better ones, but more
> to
> >>  the point, the marketplace can decide what the best UI is in this case.
> >
> >Better ones like what?  I'm serious. The current XAuth spec has an
> >IdP/Extender
> >deciding upfront which RP should be allowed to see the end user has a
> >relationship to the IdP. I cannot imagine how you'd build a UI to fix that
> >problem. If you can imagine a UI improvement, please describe it!
>
> I believe John's argument here is that UI development can be crowd-sourced:
>
> We *can* go to all the trouble of imagining better ones, but why
> *should* we when all the differently-thinking users out there will
> demand their own best changes once they see the prototype?
>
> -Shade
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