I dont mean that linux steeper than linux
I just want to say that oi is more difficult in the assimilation
and its not cool

26.12.2014 22:28, Gary Gendel пишет:
Just to interject my own feelings...

If it weren't for OI then I would have left OpenSolaris a long time ago. I applaud the work done and understand the ongoing pain that moving towards a goal with so few people takes. In a SOHO environment, one machine does a lot of work, including building and testing GUI applications. We don't develop products for [Open]Solaris anymore but you can't believe how powerful testing on different architectures helps find hidden flaws. Our server side runs on Linux, but our clients (both GUI and command line) run on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS/X. We run regressions on various flavors of these plus OpenIndiana. It's amazing how many bad things Linux suppresses that surfaces under OpenIndiana. As we move from Sun libraries to Gnu libraries this may be less important, but I still see a value in doing this for our products.

We currently use hipster and it's instability has never been a big problem for us as we upgrade and test. If we see something important has gone awry, we report it and roll back.

Are there things that we feel are lacking? Absolutely but we work around them. When things break of are deprecated we install replacements. For us, not supporting DHCPv6 PD is a drawback since this is the method our ISP uses to give us a block of IPV6 addresses. I built the ISC dhcp server but I couldn't figure how to integrate it into illumos so it functioned correctly, so I resorted to a 4-to-6 tunnel using Hurricane Electric. The good side was that I was able to put the ISC dhcp client into poi-userland before the sun dhcp meltdown.

I contribute the little I can but find my "sore spots" don't jive with most of the illumos community, however OpenIndiana is fairly close. I don't need an overblown window management system and I long for the days when the whole X11 infrastructure (including WM) only took about 12Megs overhead to run on the Sparc IPC (xfwm). Tribblix is an alternative, but I haven't bought into Peter's vision yet as it is still a moving target. I consider it as stable as hipster so there is no impetus to jump ship.

I just jumped in to make it known that there are some people that really appreciate the work going into hipster.

Gary

On 12/26/2014 07:47 AM, Евгений Парфенов wrote:
And i think admin have to balance between human resources and machine resources.
If IT have not economic effective than why they need company?
Im trying to say that if operating system will be more usable (effectivly from command line) than more IT specialist will use this operationg system.
And question is not about "how many administrators will be use it".
The question is "how many peple will use it and when project will die?".
Open source not for system administrators only.

26.12.2014 21:40, Dmitry Kozhinov пишет:
gui uses more resources than server have to

Server admin should use less human resources, not a machine.

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