On 3/09/2013 20:34, Richard Bair wrote:
I would strongly recommend leaving the shared JRE install world behind.
As a suggestion, try JWrapper - we have flawless installs now, even using an 
OSGI deployment procedure! Bundled JVMs are really the only dependable way to 
go now it seems?
If my business were betting on it, I'd not use a shared install for a couple 
reasons:
   - I want to control the *exact* version of the JRE such that my app testing 
was done against a specific version of the JRE
   - I have the freedom to modify the JRE as needed for my app
   - I can deploy as a normal desktop app using normal mechanisms
       - Related, I don't have to field support requests around what version of 
Java is installed or not, or Java install problems

I can still have auto-update with an app cobundle, so I don't miss out there 
either.

None of these points are suggesting the problem is with WebStart's 
implementation, they all hold even if WebStart were completely bug free. 
They're just the natural side-effect of a shared install system.
Actually, one of the best things of Java is that in like 99.9% of the cases, my app will run flawlessly on whatever version of the JDK or JRE is installed... on multiple platforms. If Java goes down the road of requiring testing against a specific JRE (and thus specific platform by extension) then that is its biggest advantage lost.

In fact, any framework that does not aspire to do the same (being backwards compatible to a flaw) is not a framework I'll consider for production use. I want to be able to upgrade, and at most run my unit tests to have the confidence that it will perform as expected. There can always be mistakes, both in the frameworks or in my code doing something that was undocumented or incorrectly interpreted, but in the end backwards compatibility is what makes or breaks a framework -- a big reason for that is that such frameworks are actually designed with some care, exactly because they aspire to be backward compatible... and a good API is everything.

--John

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