Richard said (2013-08-30 08:08) that builders still will be supported / needed; 
I need one to convert the string annotation in FXML to an appropriate data type 
(list of DateFormats). On my question what the alternative would be, if we're 
not to use builders because they were deprecated, the answer was that the 
build-in builders are deprecated, but the builders as a concept in FXML will 
still be used.



On 2013-09-03 23:48, Tom Schindl wrote:
Well once we have a replacement for builders this is not needed anymore
so I don't think there's a JIRA needed.

When we discussed replacements for builders in context of FXML the
consensus was to have annotations on the constructor to map the
arguments appropriately. Eva suggested @ConstructorProperties, I was
more in favor of explicit @FXMLValue annotation on each argument.

Tom

On 03.09.13 22:53, Tom Eugelink wrote:
No, but there is a less-than-optimal-but-fast approach, and that is to
write a custom BuilderFactory with if statements for all 3rd party
controls.



On 2013-09-03 20:46, Richard Bair wrote:
It is a real problem though (how to support 3rd party controls well).
Is there a JIRA for this case?

Richard

On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Tom Eugelink <t...@tbee.org> wrote:

True, so we'll leave it JFXtras then.


On 2013-09-03 20:28, Richard Bair wrote:
The only knee-jerk reaction to the service loader is that it can be
bad at startup, because for the service loader to work, it has to
scan all jar files, which means downloading all jar files. Maybe
with Jigsaw we'll have a better mechanism for this such that we can
just read the first few bytes of a module and determine whether it
supports a certain service or not.

Richard

On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Tom Eugelink <t...@tbee.org> wrote:

On 2013-09-03 17:49, Richard Bair wrote:
In this case, since JavaFX is Free Software! you can actually
suggest
the fix, prototype and propose the patch yourself, limiting the
round
trip time substantially.

That said, in JFXtras I've created an extended FactoryBuilder that
dynamically loads builder classes using Java's standard
ServiceLoader approach. Would this be of interest for inclusion
directly into JavaFX?
https://github.com/JFXtras/jfxtras-labs/blob/2.2/src/main/java/jfxtras/labs/fxml/JFXtrasBuilderFactory.java


It does require a slightly extended Builder interface though.
https://github.com/JFXtras/jfxtras-labs/blob/2.2/src/main/java/jfxtras/fxml/BuilderService.java


A little blabla about this on this blog entry:
http://tbeernot.wordpress.com/2013/08/25/fxml-builders-detection/

Tom




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