Hi,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Rushforth [mailto:kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 6:02 PM
> To: David Grieve
> Cc: Daniel Glöckner; openjfx-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Subject: Re: Structuring CSS Stylesheets
> 
> One slight correction on how to contribute below.
> 
> 
> David Grieve wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 8/15/16 10:52 AM, Daniel Glöckner wrote:
> >>>> We found the culprits by patching the JRE, adding some statistics
> >>>> to SimpleSelector and CompoundSelector. I was wondering whether
> >>>> there are easier ways but anyway, it works ;)
> >>> This sounds like some code that would be good to share with the
> >>> community. :)
> >> [DG] Sure thing. It's not too complicated and doesn't use external
> >> libs. Any hint where I could post it / paste it?
> > See https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Community for how to
> > contribute
> 
> That page is just a placeholder, and finding what you need in the sub-pages a
> bit tricky. See the following page for how to contribute:
> 
> http://openjdk.java.net/contribute/
> 
> -- Kevin
> 
> 
> >> need them, for example our UI component factory would add table.css
> >> to a TableView's list of stylesheets (tv.
> >> getStylesheets().add("/path/to/table.css").
> >> The global theme.css would be minimal and only define colors and fonts.
> >>>> What do you think about this approach? Will this work nicely with
> >>>> caching of
> >>> CSS styles in JavaFX?
> >>> I think if you are going to go this route, you might want to use
> >>> Region#getUserAgentStylesheets() which adds the styles as user-agent
> >>> styles.
> >>> But I don't think it will buy you much in terms of CSS performance.
> >> [DG] We also want to control / override the CSS of standard JavaFX
> >> controls like TreeTableView. Ideally we don't need to sub class them
> >> so we would need to use parent. getStylesheets().add(), right?
> > I doubt that getUserAgentStylesheets() or getStylesheets() is going to
> > have much impact. My guess is that having the stylesheets added to the
> > scene is going to be your best bet. I say this because the code that
> > does the style matching has to combine styles together from
> > Region#getUserAgentStylesheets() and Parent#getStylesheets(), whereas
> > the styles from scene stylesheets are already combined. You have to
> > think of these different sources of styles as sets of styles. When you
> > have Region or Parent stylesheets, you have to create a union of those
> > styles with the default user-agent stylesheets (e.g., caspian.css).
> > With just scene stylesheets, you have just one set (this isn't 100%
> > accurate, but close enough for this discussion).
OK. So if we're talking about performance it might be a good idea to add the 
CSS to the scene and make sure that all CSS selectors are efficient.
> >
> >>> If you the biggest bang for your buck relative to JavaFX CSS
> >>> performance, avoid style lookup and relative font sizes.
> >> [DG] Could you explain what you mean by "avoid style lookups"?
> > You know about styles like '-fx-base' used in caspian.css. You change
> > the color for -fx-base and the basic colors of the UI change. This
> > magic happens at runtime. So if I have a label in a cell in a table,
> > and it has a style "-fx-border-color: -fx-base", JavaFX will - at
> > runtime - try to resolve -fx-base into an actual color. It starts at
> > the leaf and looks tries to resolve -fx-base. If it can't resolve it,
> > it looks for a style in the parent node, and so on up the parent-chain
> > all the way to the root node. The worst case scenario, then, is that
> > there are no styles that resolve the value until you get to .root.
> >
> > This is what I mean by 'style lookups'.
> >
> > Its great stuff (the brainchild of Jasper Potts) because I can change
> > the look of my UI just by setting '-fx-base'. But if I were developing
> > a UI and I didn't care to let the users of my UI make such changes,
> > I'd go through and remove all the lookups in caspian.css (not trivial
> > because there are many many lookups - not just -fx-base). Or use a
> > pre-processor such as SASS or LESS.
> >
> > The same sort of lookup happens when you have an em (or other relative
> > size) because you need a font or a font-size to complete the
> > calculation. In most cases, the lookup for a font or font-size goes
> > all the way to .root, where it fails and falls back on
> > Font.getDefault(). But its a trade off since em sizes let your UI more
> > easily scale to different displays.
> >
Thanks a lot for the in-depth explanation. We're using a lot of style lookups 
in our CSS, mostly to define colors similar to -fx-base in your example. 
We will look at using a preprocessor as you suggested. This was anyway on our 
TODO list to be able to support user specific font sizes.

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