Wickets standard project setup require Maven. What is your proposal to
integrate Wicket into the current stack?

Sebastian

2012/8/27 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>:
> I don't really understand why do we need maven?
> Why ant+ivy is not enough?
> I always thought it is similar tools.
>
> Could you please explain it?
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:10 PM, [email protected]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well lets give it a try with Wicket.
>> However when it comes to the real collaboration and UI effects I think
>> we will heavily use jQuery.
>> We will first have to integrate our application in a Maven styled project.
>>
>> I guess we can still use ANT to compile certain aspect of our
>> application, Maven can trigger ANT build scripts.
>> http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-antrun-plugin/
>> seems to be a perfect tool for us.
>> However some of the Ivy dependency management might be difficult to
>> set up. Lets try that out.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2012/8/27 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>:
>>> Hello Sebastian,
>>>
>>> sorry for the late reply (was out of city with no internet access)
>>> While proposing using Apache Wicket I thought of following:
>>>
>>> 1) Displaying of lists: configuration, language labels, rooms etc.
>>> 2) Use of Ajax to refresh only parts of page displayed.
>>>
>>> We definitely can use JS libraries (like jQuery UI) only but this will
>>> make code less readable. I believe Apache Wicket will be good for
>>> Admin menu etc. And we can easily add jQuery UI to it.
>>>
>>> Instead of Wicket we can use Spring MVC and Velocity.
>>> I have proposed Wicket only because I have more experience with it and
>>> from my point of view it is easy to maintain.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:23 AM, [email protected]
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> After some discussion I would like to propose to integrate Apache
>>>> Wicket and try it out.
>>>> I have update the document:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/DHTML+Proposal
>>>> Please add your notes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Sebastian
>>>>
>>>> 2012/8/24 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>> This would be my proposal:
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/DHTML+Proposal
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/8/24 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> What if we instead of Apache Wicket use Apache Velocity to provide the
>>>>>> basic structure of the HTML websites?
>>>>>> All dynamically loaded data, rendering of items could be then done by 
>>>>>> jQuery.
>>>>>> That way we will have a set of html templates to work on and a UI
>>>>>> framework to manipulate it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/8/24 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> I would like to share this use-case
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the next iteration I would like to put the Chat box as a permanent
>>>>>>> box similar to what is in Google+ and Facebook on the bottom.
>>>>>>> That mean no matter where you go, admin section, room list, dashboard
>>>>>>> => the chat always stays the same, so a complete page refresh is not 
>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>> I would simply replace the DIV that contains the main content with new
>>>>>>> one when switching between main menu entries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you think about that?
>>>>>>> How would that affect the framework discussion?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2012/8/24 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> When it comes to rendering and UI component frameworks you come to
>>>>>>>> projects like:
>>>>>>>> code.google.com/p/wiquery
>>>>>>>> http://www.7thweb.net/jquery-ui-samples/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Simple search for "Apache Wicket UI samples" and you find tons of
>>>>>>>> jQuery examples that are used in Apache Wicket.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So from my point of view Apache Wicket is simply no UI framework. It
>>>>>>>> is a web-framework. How things render is not part of it. Practically
>>>>>>>> it might mean that we could combine Apache Wicket with jQuery too. But
>>>>>>>> why use Apache Wicket then at all? We have already a backend with Rest
>>>>>>>> Services and everything. Wicket would duplicate that. What parts of
>>>>>>>> Wicket would we really use?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2012/8/24 [email protected] <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>> Can you show examples of Apache Wicket UI widgets and animation?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2012/8/24 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>> I would recommend to review Apache Wicket.
>>>>>>>>>> It is MVC it has lots of UI components like paged lists table views 
>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>> It had built-in AJAX support.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In general I'll vote for moving to DHTML
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 24, 2012 3:57 PM, "[email protected]" 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to start a discussion about options to migrate and a
>>>>>>>>>>> Roadmap for the upcomfing versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is our current situation:
>>>>>>>>>>> We currently have two client side application a) + b)
>>>>>>>>>>> a) Audio/Video related stuff is all the SWF10 app
>>>>>>>>>>> b) whiteboard, administration + all the rest in the SWF8 app.
>>>>>>>>>>> The two SWFs communicate via LocalConnection with each other.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are three options from my point of view:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) refactor the SWF8 app to SWF11 and keep the LocalConnection
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) refactor the SWF8 and merge SWF8 with SWF10 app to a single SWF11
>>>>>>>>>>> app and get rid of the LocalConnection workaround
>>>>>>>>>>> 3) refactor the SWF8 app to HTML5 and only use SWF for the 
>>>>>>>>>>> audio/video
>>>>>>>>>>> part.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> option 1 is the easiest thing to do
>>>>>>>>>>> option 2 is the best from architecture point of view
>>>>>>>>>>> option 3 is the best for moving to HTML5
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From my point of view it would be the best option to start DHTML
>>>>>>>>>>> refactoring now (in a version 3.0 branch) and release the current
>>>>>>>>>>> trunk tree (as version 2.1).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For the transition to DHTML we have several options:
>>>>>>>>>>> I) Refactor to DHTML using OpenLaszlo
>>>>>>>>>>> II) Refactor to DHTML using a JavaScript framework (jQuery, Dojo,
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Wicket, Spring+MVC)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My personal preference is using jQuery. It provides components for 
>>>>>>>>>>> UI
>>>>>>>>>>> and animation and is the most widespread. From a project point of 
>>>>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>>>>> it will be more easy to attract new developers if they can use tools
>>>>>>>>>>> that they are comfortable in. And I really don't want to code a 
>>>>>>>>>>> client
>>>>>>>>>>> side application that requires heavy usage of the page-refresh. That
>>>>>>>>>>> would be like moving back in time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There are some architectural questions that we should discuss for 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> JavaScript refactoring.
>>>>>>>>>>> However there should be some kind of consens on the overall RoadMap 
>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So what do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> [email protected]
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax



-- 
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
[email protected]

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