Hi George, your idea to additionally make the exlusive-audio option available by clicking on the green dot sounds good. I will go through your list and comment in detail soon.
Sebastian 2012/5/10 George Kirkham <[email protected]> > Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68**** > > ** ** > > These I believe are issues, please check and comment.**** > > ** ** > > Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio & > Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant > joins the meeting **** > > ** ** > > **1) **When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the > “Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio” column for either of the two > other participants, the text that hovers is “Allow user to give exclusive > audio”, but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if > you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says “User is > Moderator, he can do anything.”, where as it would be more correct if the > hover text said “Remove ability to give exclusive audio”, like the “Remove > ability to draw on the whiteboard”. The “Allow/Deny right to Remote > Control Screen” ticks also has the same issue (they display “User is > Moderator, he can do anything.”). In fact in this scenario the statement > “User is Moderator, he can do anything.” is incorrect as this user is not a > moderator. > > **** > > **2) **I would have expected that giving users the “Allow user to > give exclusive audio” would allow users to control the who currently has > exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control > the use of “exclusive audio” (unless they are made moderators). > > **** > > **3) **It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking > the centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to “Audio > only”, then they don’t have a video window so there is no way to grant them > “exclusive audio”. Would it not be better to have a way to control > exclusive audio from the “Users” list? Why not use the round green (user > speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the > meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the > “exclusive audio” for the person who was set to “audio only”. But these > windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the > first to join. > > **** > > **4) **In the “Users” list there is a round green icon like the > green icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, > it does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it > is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says > “User speaks”. > > **** > > **5) **when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video), > they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending > video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture as > the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was > sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control > who had “exclusive audio”, but only when a moderator. The other three users > still had no way to give the “audio only” user, “exclusive audio”. > > **** > > **6) **I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, > and I am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another > day. Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > ** ** > > George Kirkham**** > > ** ** > > IT Manager**** > > Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) **** > > NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia**** > > T: (02) 6120 1600**** > > F: (02) 6273 7181**** > > E: [email protected], **** > > W: www.co2crc.com.au**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* brian mullan [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>**** > > ** ** > > Sergey > > I think you meant to say if you run service on port *=< 1024* you need > root privilages > > **** > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root > users can run services on ports >1024. > > > http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/for > example... > > On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:**** > > Mahmut, > > Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below, > are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or > port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what > would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on > port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need > to modify other that the two that I am currently changing. > > /etc/init.d/red5 > > start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir > $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null > 2>/dev/null & > > /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties > > # HTTP > > http.host=0.0.0.0 > > http.port=80 > > https.port=8443 > > http.URIEncoding=UTF-8 > > /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml > > <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> > > I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to > http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from > the server. > > I am getting no error information from the log files. > > When I do netstat -anp | grep java > > tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin > > unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin > /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb > > tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java > > tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java > > However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat > -anp | grep java” > > /etc/init.d/red5 > > start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME > --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null & > > tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin > > unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin > /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb > > tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java > > tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java > > tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java > > tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java > > tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java > > tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java > > unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java > > If I > > Thanks, > > George Kirkham > > IT Manager > > Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) > > NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia > > T: (02) 6120 1600 > > F: (02) 6273 7181 > > E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > > W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> > > *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> > > Hi George, > > I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not > understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings > in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think. > > Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running > red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root. > > Regards, > > > _Mahmut TEKER > > On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote: > > Stephen, > > The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or > installed), and nothing else on that port. > > I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings > as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody. > Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for > port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be. > > One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings” > which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this > account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory, > not just a dummy account. > > I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the > Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you > try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails. > > If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to > learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone > else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are > successfully running under ‘nobody’. > > Thanks, > > George Kirkham > > IT Manager > > Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) > > NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia > > T: (02) 6120 1600 > > F: (02) 6273 7181 > > E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > > W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> > > *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM > *To:* [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> > > You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you? > > If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict. > > To aid in finding the problem, If you go here > > /usr/lib/red5 > > Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh > > Then start it using the debug mode > > ./red5-debug.sh > > This will tell you more about why its failing to start. > > Cheers > > *Stephen Cottham** > *Group IT Manager (Associate) > > Robert Bird Group > Level 5, 333 Ann St > Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia > > *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)* > > *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)* > > *Fax: +6173 319 2799* > > *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)* > > *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)* > > *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/> > > <http://www.robertbird.com.au/> > > This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally > privileged information or copyright material. 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None of the sender > or its related entities accepts any liability for any consequential > damage resulting from this email containing computer viruses. > > > Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules* > www.codetwo.com <http://www.codetwo.com> > > *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM > *To:* [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> > > Hi, > > Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080. > > I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I > have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well. > > Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and > I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the > issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the > entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server > and it will work on port 80. > > I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to > resolved it. > > Thanks, > > George Kirkham > > IT Manager > > Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) > > NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia > > T: (02) 6120 1600 > > F: (02) 6273 7181 > > E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > > W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> > > *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM > *To:* [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files > > Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know. > > George Kirkham > > *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM > *To:* [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files > > Hi George, > > What is it that I should add to all the other language files? > => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) > file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the > language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete > or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing. > > The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other > languages > modify for the languages that they are proficient in? > => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators > will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years > until really all languages are filled up. You could also use > translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a > translation. > > Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, > if so, please let me know. > => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors > do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you > would actually enter something like this: > > <br/> > > (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>") > > > Sebastian > > 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > Hi, > > What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files > ? > > I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common > (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can > fill up other language files the english one. However all language files > should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset." > > What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same > English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages > modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to > ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient > in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to > follow, if so, please let me know. > > I noticed that the Japanese file has > <string id="262" name="salutation_miss"> > <value>Ms.</value> > </string> > > > Thanks, > > George Kirkham > > > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock> > http://www.openmeetings.de > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>**** > > ** ** > -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.openmeetings.de http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com [email protected]
