Thanks Alexei. I am very excited about using OpenMeetings. I think this platform has a lot of potential!
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>wrote: > Daniel, > that's a great asset for community that you dedicate your time using > Openmeetings and keep good questions coming. Thanks. > > > -- > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > http://dataved.ru/ > +7 916 562 8095 > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Daniel Ascher <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I > am > > not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is > anything I > > can do to further this effort, please let me know! > > > > Dan Ascher > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around > >> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a > >> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave > >> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project. > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:01 AM, George Kirkham <[email protected] > > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> These I believe are issues, please check and comment. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio & > >>> Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth > participant > >>> joins the meeting > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the > >>> "Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio" column for either of the two > >>> other participants, the text that hovers is "Allow user to give > exclusive > >>> audio", but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive > audio, if > >>> you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says "User is > >>> Moderator, he can do anything.", where as it would be more correct if > the > >>> hover text said "Remove ability to give exclusive audio", like the > "Remove > >>> ability to draw on the whiteboard". The "Allow/Deny right to Remote > Control > >>> Screen" ticks also has the same issue (they display "User is > Moderator, he > >>> can do anything."). In fact in this scenario the statement "User is > >>> Moderator, he can do anything." is incorrect as this user is not a > >>> moderator. > >>> > >>> 2) I would have expected that giving users the "Allow user to give > >>> exclusive audio" would allow users to control the who currently has > >>> exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot > control > >>> the use of "exclusive audio" (unless they are made moderators). > >>> > >>> 3) It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking > the > >>> centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to "Audio > >>> only", then they don't have a video window so there is no way to grant > them > >>> "exclusive audio". Would it not be better to have a way to control > >>> exclusive audio from the "Users" list? Why not use the round green > (user > >>> speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to > the > >>> meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the > >>> "exclusive audio" for the person who was set to "audio only". But > these > >>> windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the > first > >>> to join. > >>> > >>> 4) In the "Users" list there is a round green icon like the green > >>> icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it > does > >>> not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it is > >>> supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says > "User > >>> speaks". > >>> > >>> 5) when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video), > they > >>> had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending > video) and > >>> one other window like a video window but without any picture as the > name > >>> label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was > sending > >>> audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control who > had > >>> "exclusive audio", but only when a moderator. The other three users > still > >>> had no way to give the "audio only" user, "exclusive audio". > >>> > >>> 6) I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and > I > >>> am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day. > >>> Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> George Kirkham > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> IT Manager > >>> > >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) > >>> > >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia > >>> > >>> T: (02) 6120 1600 > >>> > >>> F: (02) 6273 7181 > >>> > >>> E: [email protected], > >>> > >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: brian mullan [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sergey > >>> > >>> I think you meant to say if you run service on port =< 1024 you need > root > >>> privilages > >>> > >>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar < > [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. > Non-root > >>> users can run services on ports >1024. > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/ > >>> for example... > >>> > >>> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote: > >>> > >>> Mahmut, > >>> > >>> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below, > >>> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or > >>> port 80 ? If you don't mind sharing, what is your server's OS?, and > what > >>> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on > >>> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need > >>> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing. > >>> > >>> /etc/init.d/red5 > >>> > >>> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir > >>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null > >>> 2>/dev/null & > >>> > >>> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties > >>> > >>> # HTTP > >>> > >>> http.host=0.0.0.0 > >>> > >>> http.port=80 > >>> > >>> https.port=8443 > >>> > >>> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8 > >>> > >>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml > >>> > >>> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> > >>> > >>> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect > to > >>> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from > >>> the server. > >>> > >>> I am getting no error information from the log files. > >>> > >>> When I do netstat -anp | grep java > >>> > >>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin > >>> > >>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin > >>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb > >>> > >>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java > >>> > >>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java > >>> > >>> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for "netstat > >>> -anp | grep java" > >>> > >>> /etc/init.d/red5 > >>> > >>> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME > >>> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null & > >>> > >>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin > >>> > >>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin > >>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb > >>> > >>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java > >>> > >>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java > >>> > >>> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java > >>> > >>> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java > >>> > >>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java > >>> > >>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java > >>> > >>> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java > >>> > >>> If I > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> George Kirkham > >>> > >>> IT Manager > >>> > >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) > >>> > >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia > >>> > >>> T: (02) 6120 1600 > >>> > >>> F: (02) 6273 7181 > >>> > >>> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > >>> > >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> > >>> > >>> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM > >>> *To:* [email protected] > >>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> > >>> > >>> Hi George, > >>> > >>> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not > >>> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or > warnings > >>> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think. > >>> > >>> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running > >>> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> > >>> _Mahmut TEKER > >>> > >>> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote: > >>> > >>> Stephen, > >>> > >>> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or > >>> installed), and nothing else on that port. > >>> > >>> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running > openMeetings > >>> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody. > >>> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for > >>> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be. > >>> > >>> One thing I could try is to create a full account called "openmeetings" > >>> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this > >>> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory, > >>> not just a dummy account. > >>> > >>> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the > >>> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you > >>> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails. > >>> > >>> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to > >>> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone > >>> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are > >>> successfully running under 'nobody'. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> George Kirkham > >>> > >>> IT Manager > >>> > >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) > >>> > >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia > >>> > >>> T: (02) 6120 1600 > >>> > >>> F: (02) 6273 7181 > >>> > >>> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > >>> > >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> > >>> > >>> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM > >>> *To:* [email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> > >>> > >>> You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you? > >>> > >>> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict. > >>> > >>> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here > >>> > >>> /usr/lib/red5 > >>> > >>> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh > >>> > >>> Then start it using the debug mode > >>> > >>> ./red5-debug.sh > >>> > >>> This will tell you more about why its failing to start. > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> *Stephen Cottham** > >>> *Group IT Manager (Associate) > >>> > >>> Robert Bird Group > >>> Level 5, 333 Ann St > >>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia > >>> > >>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)* > >>> > >>> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)* > >>> > >>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799* > >>> > >>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)* > >>> > >>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)* > >>> > >>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/> > >>> > >>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/> > >>> > >>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally > >>> privileged information or copyright material. 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I really do not think > the > >>> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the > >>> entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first (working) server > >>> and it will work on port 80. > >>> > >>> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to > >>> resolved it. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> George Kirkham > >>> > >>> IT Manager > >>> > >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) > >>> > >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia > >>> > >>> T: (02) 6120 1600 > >>> > >>> F: (02) 6273 7181 > >>> > >>> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, > >>> > >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> > >>> > >>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM > >>> *To:* [email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files > >>> > >>> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know. > >>> > >>> George Kirkham > >>> > >>> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM > >>> *To:* [email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files > >>> > >>> Hi George, > >>> > >>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? > >>> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) > >>> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the > >>> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete > >>> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing. > >>> > >>> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other > >>> languages > >>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? > >>> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators > >>> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years > >>> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use > >>> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a > >>> translation. > >>> > >>> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, > >>> if so, please let me know. > >>> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors > >>> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you > >>> would actually enter something like this: > >>> > >>> <br/> > >>> > >>> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>") > >>> > >>> > >>> Sebastian > >>> > >>> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files > >>> ? > >>> > >>> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common > >>> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can > >>> fill up other language files the english one. However all language > files > >>> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset." > >>> > >>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same > >>> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages > >>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to > >>> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient > >>> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to > >>> follow, if so, please let me know. > >>> > >>> I noticed that the Japanese file has > >>> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss"> > >>> <value>Ms.</value> > >>> </string> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> George Kirkham > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sebastian Wagner > >>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock> > >>> http://www.openmeetings.de > >>> http://www.webbase-design.de > >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Daniel Ascher, M.Ed. > > President > > A+ Test Prep and Tutoring > > "Creating Bright Futures" > > > > 505 York Road, Suite 6 > > Jenkintown, PA 19046 > > Office: 215.886.9188 > > Direct: 267.242.9640 > > www.aplustutoring.com > -- Daniel Ascher, M.Ed. 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