-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
|> I think two cards is not needed, you just put your big card in the |> device when you buy a new card, copying over the handful of "system |> files" from the original card on a PC on easy VFAT. |> |> I suspect wanting a second removable card is just a crutch because we |> did a rubbish job making the one internal card a) big enough and b) |> easily accessible over network at high bandwidth. If it is true we need |> to attack the true issue. | the reason i am mumbling 2 cards is this: | | 1. internal card is safe - can't be removed without a system powerdown. we can | rely on it. You can keep power up on USB and pull the battery OK, but point taken. | 2. external card is removable any time - like any removable storage u have with | sd-card etc. readers on laptops/desktops/anywhere else. this is where your | "media" goes - music, photos, movies etc. etc. - stuff you like to transfer | around and plug in/out of multiple devices and that you may want many gb of | storage for. buy a few 8gb micro-sd cards and you can traipse around a lot of | music/videos etc. etc. Yes Daniel explained the same things, but when I looked closely at it, I didn't really believe it or see it happening. There are so many different physical formats for flash it is super unlikely you have another device with microSD, I don't. I have Sony Memory Stick, USB thumb drives, CF cards, I even have some big oldstyle SD. I have nothing to share that card with. Daniel mentioned camera pic transfer, that can be done in a flash-format-agnostic way using USB host to the camera without card ejection. When I looked at "lot of music and videos" also it seemed to me putting a single 8GB or 16GB card inside the device will be fine for normal case. That is a buttload of storage, it is a lot of long transcoded video as well... and with video, once you saw it, typically you do not need it to see again for a long time. So for video there is often high turnover for the storage space naturally. The real question is what leads people to see themselves ejecting that SD card? The answer is because we didn't provide an alternative fantasy for them where they see themselves easily and smoothly connecting to the SD card storage remotely without touching the device and managing the storage space reliably and at high bandwidths from a PC or whatever. In .tw we touched on this and again you had done thinking on it already, I siad that Samba would suck badly and always caused me trouble and to expose the SD card as USB mass storage device. But you pointed out that this is a block-level thing that would conflict with any mount in the device. So we need another story for this I think that truly scratches the same itch that makes people want to physically eject cards. | 3. external card is ok if a user removes it any time during operation - it | won't screw up the core fs's we rely on (/home for user dir and config, and / | for base os). What's the motive for removing it though... all we really have is because the user carries around many 8GB microSD cards with media on them, I do not think that is going to be a common scenario on cost grounds alone. OTOH replacing the shipped SD card with a single huge hulking one I can see happen quite a bit. | 4. an EASILY accessible external card is good for usability and users. it makes | industrial design less slick though as space for the slot has to be accounted | for. Again this presupposes there is a good valid motive for removing the card during normal usage. - -Andy -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgAfJsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoyeACggFKUm3V+CXtqPi2J0hj1Kbjb QxQAnisPaEx6lDToRXeojBmDh6fSv6Xw =FCYb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
