Just please consider: you have served features for paid customers since 2 years now with Vaadin technology and you spend a lot of money in developing them at least 2 developers over 2 years.
- Dashboard - Opsboard - Opspanel - BSM Editor - Surveillance View Editor - JMX Configuration UI - Topology UI File your Angular JS App here: - Provisioning UI - Kroger? The Vaadin apps cover right quite a large feature set of the Webapp. What would you think if someone tells you, it was nice but the last 2 years of your life, you developed for the trashcan - I don’t think no developer wants to hear something like this. Even I don’t want to think about how much money came or went into the features developed with Vaadin. I don’t know the numbers exactly but I think David has a pretty good feeling about it. It would be nice to spend more time to consider the consequences when we add or “try” to replace a technology what consequences it has. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against your decision to move to Angular, the technical argumentation makes sense. I think there is much more to consider and can’t be completely discussed on a mailing list, which is the reason I would like to move this talk to DevJam where everybody is there. I think it is not nice to just say - Fuck Vaadin here - Fuck Vaadin there, it does not help to get a constructive solution to the problem - “OUR" UI sucks really badly. We don’t leverage from the modern Vaadin UI cause we can’t use it, we don’t leverage from modern Angular JS technology cause we can’t use it - We added bootstrap but we can’t leverage from it, cause we can’t really use it. It does not make any sense to me. The user is in pain with a bad UI and workflows, developers are in pain with the tech cruft, simple features are expensive because they need a lot of time, on-boarding of new people is quite impossible cause nobody gets the the tech cruft. We need to stop this somehow. > On 05.07.2016, at 16:50, Seth Leger <s...@opennms.com> wrote: > > On 7/5/16 9:54 AM, Benjamin Reed wrote: >> We *definitely* need to pick a standard and go with it... I am with >> Alejandro on the AngularJS train, personally. BUT, if we're going to >> start using it more, we need to normalize our javascript build system >> and codebase a lot. There's already a lot of copy+paste duplication in >> the newer controls Seth made, and a mishmash of Angular apps in >> different places. > > +1 with the caveat that the duplication in my onmsList code is not > unintentional. I'm just trying to cover all of the use cases for those > controls before I go back in and refactor things. I'm sure that > modularizing and directive-izing things would clean it up a lot but I > don't want to prematurely optimize. :) > > -- Seth > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Attend Shape: An AT&T Tech Expo July 15-16. Meet us at AT&T Park in San > Francisco, CA to explore cutting-edge tech and listen to tech luminaries > present their vision of the future. This family event has something for > everyone, including kids. Get more information and register today. > http://sdm.link/attshape > _______________________________________________ > Please read the OpenNMS Mailing List FAQ: > http://www.opennms.org/index.php/Mailing_List_FAQ > > opennms-devel mailing list > > To *unsubscribe* or change your subscription options, see the bottom of this > page: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opennms-devel
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