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> Subject: [Openorg-list] Now Available for Public Comment: OpenOrg
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> Hello friends,
>
> The Open Organization Ambassadors are please to announce a final draft
> of their most recent collaborative effort, The Open Organization
> Maturity Model. As the Model's introduction explains:
>
> > "The Open Organization Maturity Model is a framework for helping your
> organization become more transparent, inclusive, adaptable,
> collaborative, and communal. It outlines steps that individuals, teams,
> and organizations can take to critically examine their organizational
> practices and chart their progress toward becoming a more open
> organization (as outlined in the Open Organization Definition)."
>
> This document is the product of months of hard work and persistence, and
> it's now publicly available on GitHub for public comment and review. The
> group welcomes feedback as it prepares to determine whether it will
> incorporate the document into the official Open Organization Definition.
> You can comment here:
>
> https://github.com/open-organization-ambassadors/open-
> org-definition/pull/13
>
> Congratulations to everyone who helped the project come this far.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bryan
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>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 08:53:46 -0400
> From: Allison Matlack <[email protected]>
> To: Bryan Behrenshausen <[email protected]>
> Cc: agilecoaches <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Openorg-list] Now Available for Public Comment: OpenOrg
>         Maturity Model
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> Hey Bryan,
>
> I forwarded this email to the Agile Coaches group -- I thought we might
> want to contribute to (or at least be aware of) these initiatives as we
> start to think about transformation work at Red Hat.
>
> There was a question about our usage of github that I'd like to bring back
> to this list:
>
> "the comment in the overall readme for that github repo says that comments
> need to be submitted by a date in order to incorporated into the general
> repo. Is it not the open source way to always take additional comments and
> Pull Requests to improve the overall process and practices?... I wanted to
> ask why we aren't keeping comments and improvements items as a consistent
> and iterative manner to achieve the goal of the best product possible."
>
> My initial guess was that you needed comments by a certain date due to
> publication/announcement reasons. But is there a specific reason why we're
> not calling for continual comments/improvements?
>
> Thanks,
> -Allison
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Bryan Behrenshausen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello friends,
> >
> > The Open Organization Ambassadors are please to announce a final draft
> > of their most recent collaborative effort, The Open Organization
> > Maturity Model. As the Model's introduction explains:
> >
> > > "The Open Organization Maturity Model is a framework for helping your
> > organization become more transparent, inclusive, adaptable,
> > collaborative, and communal. It outlines steps that individuals, teams,
> > and organizations can take to critically examine their organizational
> > practices and chart their progress toward becoming a more open
> > organization (as outlined in the Open Organization Definition)."
> >
> > This document is the product of months of hard work and persistence, and
> > it's now publicly available on GitHub for public comment and review. The
> > group welcomes feedback as it prepares to determine whether it will
> > incorporate the document into the official Open Organization Definition.
> > You can comment here:
> >
> > https://github.com/open-organization-ambassadors/open-org-
> > definition/pull/13
> >
> > Congratulations to everyone who helped the project come this far.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Bryan
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 09:12:22 -0400
> From: Bryan Behrenshausen <[email protected]>
> To: Allison Matlack <[email protected]>
> Cc: agilecoaches <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Openorg-list] Now Available for Public Comment: OpenOrg
>         Maturity Model
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> On 06/30/2017 08:53 AM, Allison Matlack wrote:
> > "the comment in the overall readme for that github repo says that
> > comments need to be submitted by a date in order to incorporated into
> > the general repo. Is it not the open source way to always take
> > additional comments and Pull Requests to improve the overall process and
> > practices?... I wanted to ask why we aren't keeping comments and
> > improvements items as a consistent and iterative manner to achieve the
> > goal of the best product possible."
> >
> > My initial guess was that you needed comments by a certain date due to
> > publication/announcement reasons. But is there a specific reason why
> > we're not calling for continual comments/improvements?
>
> Hi Allison,
>
> Thanks so much for forwarding this along. I'm excited to see what the
> Agile Coaches group makes of our community's work?not to mention what
> they will add to the effort!
>
> The answer to the coaches' excellent question is a rather simple and
> boring one, I'm afraid:
>
> As an open source project, the Maturity Model would indeed _always_ be
> open to continual enhancement and modification, and I'm sure the group
> joins me in welcoming feedback and pull requests at all times.
>
> The dates on _this specific_ announcement are in place simply to bracket
> a period of "public comment" on the _final draft_ of the document as the
> ambassadors determine whether to officially incorporate the model into
> the Open Organization Definition repository. We are setting a date by
> which we want to make that decision. So put another way: The "deadline"
> is not something like a final deadline for comments, modifications,
> feedback, and enhancements _in general_; it's more like a conclusion to
> a _particular_ period of discussion that we're all having as we
> determine whether the community ultimately endorses the collaborative
> work that came out of the first few drafting periods (and wishes to
> finally include it in the public repository). That's why the document is
> presently, technically, a pull request.
>
> I hope that makes sense! More questions and comments surely welcome!
>
> Bryan
>
>
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