Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> Am Montag 19 April 2010 21:05:12 schrieb Anders Rundgren:
>> The alternative, using an ever increasing number of userid/passwords
>> pairs does not seem like the best idea either.   So it is one lousy
>> idea against another lousy idea?  May the lousiest idea win :-)


> here is mine: use smart phones.

This is how actually I got started.  It is a very useful idea.

http://keycenter.webpki.org

the only reason for caring about smart cards is to reach the critical mass
for the provisioning stuff.  So far the industry haven't succeeded in
creating/establishing anything in this space so it is up to grabbers.

/Anders

> 
> we can write programs and even change the operating system, so that
> makes development easy.
> 
> they have all kinds of communication mechanism, so we can choose whatever
> we want (e.g. usb, bluetooth, wlan).
> 
> they aren't as restricted as cards, so development is easy.
> 
> I would like to see:
> * proximity detection -> lock your screen if you leave your desk.
> * secure logon: if I need to enter a pin, I do that on the mobile,
>   not on the pc I want to access.
> * better signing: ship the pdf to the phone, display it, sign it
>   there, send it back.
> * central configuration: lets store ssh known_hosts, ssl root ca
>   list, and settings like allowed/forbidden ciphers all in one
>   central place, and not again and again for each application.
> 
> sure, some smart phones are as insecure as pc's: there is one
> user, and all apps run as that user, and they have all rights
> the user has. thus such phones are more insecure than pcs
> (no anti virus, firewall, tools to manage security, ...).
> 
> but at least android has a nice design: sandboxes for all
> applications with a detailed security model (still not very
> good, like vista users everyone accepts everything some app
> will ask for).
> 
> so how would a good communication pc <-> phone look like?
> use usb, bluetooth or wlan? wlan isn't good enough for
> proximity, usb would be best. but I have no clue how to
> write a new usb protocol. some "ssl over usb" would be nice
> to authenticate device <-> pc and allow other protocols on
> top of that.
> 
> but my lousy idea is for authentication on desktops and signing
> only. what to do about public transportation smart cards and
> security cards for access (doors etc.)? no idea.
> 
> Regards, Andreas
> 

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