On Apr 23, 2010, at 11:38 , Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
> 2010/4/21 Andreas Jellinghaus <a...@dungeon.inka.de>:
>> well, if the token is a smart phone, it can display the pdf and show
>> it to me, before I agree to sign it. thats my whole point: smart
>> cards/ usb crypto tokens, even with pinpad readers, have this problem
>> of not being able to display a pdf before I sign it. a simple nice
>> personal, trusted device with a real screen and input system and
>> security system build in could do that on the other hand.
>> wait! I already have something like that, my mobile phone ...
> 
> A PDF document is not static but dynamic. The same document can be
> displayed differently depending on external input (time for example).
> So you may sign a PDF document displaying 100€ on your phone but the
> bank will see the same document displaying 10,000€.
> 
> A PDF document is NOT static as an image. See a presentation at a
> security conference [1]. The article and presentation is in French
> sorry. The paper was previously presented at an English conference [2]
> but I can't find the English article online.
Most of the PDF attacks AFAIK make use of stuff in PDF that should not be 
there. Like JavaScript or .exe-s :)

I'm not 100% sure but the PDF format that is used for long-term archival, PDF/A 
[1], should not have at least some of the problems.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A
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