Hello,

On Dec 9, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Peter Stuge wrote:

> Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE wrote:
>>> ******** sells single pki cards starting at ****€
>>> (10 cost **** each). jcop dual interface starting at 1***€.
>> 
>> At GOOZE we are waiting for plenty of new products and we make very
>> nice offers.
>> 
>> I would like to make confirm: can we use the OpenSC mailing list to
>> announce special offers. For example, we may offer a discount code
>> to OpenSC members.
>> 
>> Please make an announcement to make sure what is possible on the ML.
>> IMHO, this was forbidden, thus we never offered such possibility.
> 
> I think it is important to make room also for businesses and vendors
> who offer products and services related to open source projects.
> 
> But maybe there is a better place than the opensc-devel@ list?

Not asked for commercial offers are commonly known as SPAM (which, AFAIK, are 
legally opt-in in EU), so if you have commercial offers to make, you should set 
up a separate mailing list for that matter.


> In some projects there is e.g. a wiki page listing related companies
> and what they offer. I think it is very valuable for open source
> projects to encourage businesses to be visible within the project.
> It brings benefits to both parties.
This is a good idea. 

Overall wiki should be neutral and informative. Which does not mean that a well 
presented link can not be made on product pages that describe the product 
(card, token, reader), why and how it relates to OpenSC etc, but it should not 
be filled with copywriter's buzzword material copy-pasted from a marketing PDF. 
Or there will only be world-class military-grade high-security turnkey 
solutions for the enterprise cloud in the future :)

I suggest to create a new wiki page CommercialOffers to list (in chronological 
order?) companies with short descriptions and links that sell products that 
play well with OpenSC or offer services (development, integration, support etc) 
around OpenSC.

Also, transparency is important so affiliation should be noticed, and BSD 
license style "no endorsement" clause would also make sense.


> I agree that it is not really good to use the project mailing lists
> as a direct marketing channel, e.g. for sending a monthly newsletter
> or similar.
> 
> But something like your signature is certainly OK, and it's a really
> good way to get a marketing "side benefit" whenever you contribute to
> the project, as you have done a lot already, by being active on the
> mailing list. This is great!
Sure. The size of the signature should be reasonably sized when compared to the 
message body. People writing from corporate addresses know well the "for the 
recipient only ... we will sue ... keep it green .. love legalese" x 3 
languages footers that many people say they can't remove ;)


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