On 2010-01-13 11:00, Dominik Rau wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Am 13.01.2010 09:26, schrieb Marcus Lindblom:
>> On 2010-01-12 20:40, Dominik Rau wrote:
>>
>> Am 12.01.2010 15:17, schrieb Marcus Lindblom:
>>
>>>> On 2010-01-12 13:14, Dominik Rau wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you need help (web space, web design, machines for daily builds,
>>>>> documentation, domain registrations...) let us (the community) know -
>>>>> I'm sure that there are more people out there willing to help. However,
>>>>> you (the core team) have to coordinate that.
>>>>>
>>>> Or, failing that, announce that you need help with coordination and
>>>> announce that the potato is in the air. :)
>>>>
>>> Well, I guess it's easier if the guys with the big picture in mind
>>> define some tasks, but this might be also a matter of taste (and
>>> involvement in the project). But let me say it that way: Getting the
>>> potato back in the air is exactely what I try to achieve with this
>>> mailing list thread. :)
>>>
>> Oops. By "you" in my comment I meant the core devs. English is such an
>> ambiguous language. (Swedish is way better, all the time ;-P)
>>
>
> Same for German. ;)

IIRC it gets confusing if you're being polite in German, no? (Same in 
Swedish actually, but we're don't care too much about that. ;)

The English are polite all the time nowadays. (More thou and thee, I say!)

>> (...)
>> W.r.t. Windows-builds, there's nothing stopping anyone from publishing
>> such builds themselves (but regular releases do help, as in-the-middle
>> builds are seldom made externally). Tagged releases (i.e. 2.0rc1) is
>> something that even I could build and release, and it would be worth the
>> effort if as people are usully more inclined to more use, test&   report
>> bugs on "official" releases.
>
> True. Setting up a bunch of scripts that generate a nice .msi installer
> isn't a big deal. Actually, I made some experiments yesterday and it
> worked out pretty well. I'm using Advanced Installer Pro for that
> (http://www.advancedinstaller.com/ - The "standard" version is freeware,
> I guess that should work just fine, too. It allows you also to do pretty
> things like setting environment variables etc. at install), as I got a
> license for that. I thing that I could also host this at least
> temporarily on a our company's server , but I have to check with our web
> admins first... I can take care of that.

We use NullSoft InstallSystem here. It's not advanced or pro, but it 
gets simple jobs done without fuss, and is totally open-source. (me like!)

Works well for nightly builds too, but any installer generator does 
that, right?

>> Perhaps we should go to time-based releases, and do one every quarter.
>> If we start now and declare that what we have now is OpenSG 2.0 10R1 (or
>> something, the first offical 2.0 release anyway), I'd wager there will
>> be at least some who shift and try it out. (After all, we've been using
>> 2.0 for over a year, and others even longer, so it should be reasonably
>> good, and the pieces that aren't ported over will be reported.)
>
> Same for me. 2.0 never made any bigger problems here for quite some
> time. However, an important thing about versioning in my opinion is that
> you got a (previously) defined set of features and you release when they
> are "done". Time based releases tend to declare unfinished code as
> stable, something I don't really like (although it's better than nothing).

If you use a DVCS, it's much easier to keep track of feature branches 
instead of continually committing partially done stuff onto the release 
branch.

SVN branch/merge is painful, and requires every contributor to have 
commit access. (unless we start mailing patches back and forth.)

Cheers,
/Marcus


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