Heh, I really mangled the language of that last post in this thread; hopefully not so badly that you all don't catch my drift. What can I say, the 'send' button is just a little too eager to be pushed at times.
Feel free to hurl any questions concerning clarifactions to my post, flameballs over my spelling and grammar, etc my way :) Cheers James SimHost.com On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:02 PM, James Stallings II < [email protected]> wrote: > Diva (and all of those helping with this piece), > > I am delighted to see this discussion unfolding. I fell this functional > 'hole' has been crippling opensimulator adoption in many respects for some > time. > > That said, I wish to add that for a time I felt rather passionately that > this belonged in core. My passions haven't really abated in that respect, > but will say that I've begun to question my commitment to the idea that it > belongs in core. In explanation, I'd summarize as saying that it's the ready > availability of the functionality to me, in as streamlined a fashion as > possible. > > So, I think the way it is resolving for me is that were there to be > improved support for installing and operating so-called 'third party' > applications alongside opensimulator, it would not only address my concerns > with respect to what I feel is a limitation of functionality that is > injurious to the growth of the ecosystem (tip o the tam to JustinCC here), I > think that concern would be addressed in spades with a better (hopefully > more automated) approach to managing our add-in modules, and I would > heartily encourage any efforts anyone was willing to extend along these > lines :) > > Speaking of support, I am looking forward to this code being pronounced > ready for primetime use -- and as with everything I actively use, you can > count on me to be ready to support it for all comers. > > Kudos to you all! > > Cheers > James > SimHost.com > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:31 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have very mixed feelings about where to draw the line. It's tempting to >> add more things to core, but where do we stop? We can't just put everything >> in. >> >> A better approach might be to somehow make it easy for people to get and >> install 3rd party packages. I'm going to try to make it easy for ppl to add >> Wifi to their installations. The issue here is dll version compatibility, so >> we'll see how far the ease can go. >> >> >> Justin Clark-Casey wrote: >> >>> On 04/08/10 22:52, Cristina Videira Lopes wrote: >>> >>>> On Aug 4, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Michael Cerquoni wrote: >>>> >>>> Justin is correct, this functionality is not part of OpenSimulator >>>>> core code, its only in Divas release, i do not think the intention is >>>>> to put it into core either, but i could be mistaken about that, maybe >>>>> diva can clarify that better. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I don't have any political issue with moving it to core, but, >>>> technically, I don't think it belongs there. Simulators have better >>>> things to do than serve html. >>>> >>> >>> I must admit, one part of me would be very happy to see it in core since >>> it does provide the basics for managing small OpenSim installations (default >>> avatars, account creation, password recovery, etc.). >>> >>> On the other hand, I'm always concerned about expansion of core - we >>> already have 500,000 lines of code to support and this probably isn't going >>> to shrink any time soon (though the number has been surprisingly static >>> since the beginning of 2010). And if we include wifi there's the question >>> of where one draws the feature line (do we accept patches and hence have to >>> support lots of other front end code?). I'm not sure if this would conflict >>> with what Diva wants to do with wifi. >>> >>> On balance, I would actually be in favor of including wifi in core. I >>> think the benefits in terms of making OpenSim easier to pick up (hence >>> growing the long-term ecosystem) would outweigh the extra support burden, as >>> long as we were happy to limit the functionality that would go into it. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev >> > > > > -- > =================================== > http://osgrid.org > http://twitter.com/jstallings2 > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/770/a49 > -- =================================== http://osgrid.org http://twitter.com/jstallings2 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/770/a49
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