On Feb 20, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Trinity wrote:

> what we need is a central grid manager database that the tpv's use to look up 
> grids in the grid manager that every one can go to to list there grid or sims 

I certainly agree that a TPV grid manager should not be conflated with a region 
counter or other things.   

For a TPV grid manager I only need my viewer to have knowledge of the grids 
that I use, not of every grid in some central database.    So the central 
repository should only be used by the TPV to pick up information when I start 
typing a grid name that is not currently in its active list.  I would not be a 
happy camper wading through the entire list if I only use a few grids.  

Agreed about the counts varying wildly.  If I have a machine that is used for 
something else part of the time but runs  regions on osgrid for 12 hours a day 
every day then do its regions count as alive or not?   How about if I do the 
Kitely-esque thing and only bring up some cloud based regions on demand?   What 
if I had a private region that only I ever visited and then only in special 
circumstances?  Is it abandoned or not?    I am beginning to think that the 
entire idea of "region" is rather atavistic.  

- s

> 
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Nebadon Izumi <[email protected]> wrote:
> this does not seam feasible to me, for one, what if everyone sets it to 
> false, or even 1/2 of everyone sets it to false, it somewhat defeats the 
> purpose, and secondly who runs the centralized operation? and even if we did 
> decide to do this the numbers could be wildly off, it would be very intensive 
> to insure that every region was running we would be polling 10's of 1000's of 
> regions quite often to get accurate counts, I just don't think its going to 
> be possible and I would also have to -1 this idea for being in core, if 
> anything it would need to be a external module and be 100% volunteer practice 
> to those wanting to participate. But i still say the counts would be no where 
> near what would actually be running.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi@all ..
> who is/feels "responsible" for the Hypergrid implementation ?
> 
> I have an idea in regards to the last "flame war" for the opensim region
> count
> currently going on on the internets.. Wouldn`t it be a good idea to have a
> true/false option in the openism.ini to e.g let your (Hyper)Grid add +1 to a
> counter
> somewhere, so "we" could get figures for how many Grids and regions are
> online at the moment .. ?
> 
> This could be refinded by e.g. the numbers of regions running on this grid
> etc, so people
> really interested in a broader view or need to make decision "to go opensim
> or not" get a better overview ?
> 
> just a thought,
> best regards,
> Wordfromthe Wise
> 
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