I said the same thing on IRC Oren i also thing that ODE must support var before this happens. On Sep 5, 2015 1:37 AM, "Oren Hurvitz" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Strong -1. > > Varregions don't support ODE, therefore megaregions must remain. > > It's important to keep support for ODE because it has significant benefits > over BulletSim: > > Most importantly, ODE has consistently good performance, whereas BulletSim > sometimes gets into pathological states where it consumes extremely high > CPU and makes every avatar in the simulator freeze in place. I reported > this bug here: http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=6789#c26617 , > but it's still happening (I checked again last month). This is a huge > problem and it's the reason Kitely still uses ODE as the default physics > engine. (We provide BulletSim as an option, but we warn users against using > it.) > > Second, BulletSim has some strange behavior that ODE doesn't. E.g., in > BulletSim my avatar can walk vertically up some large prims! That doesn't > happen with ODE. > > Third, some users prefer ODE's behavior, and they have many scripts that > are fine-tuned for ODE. Switching to BulletSim would kill their scripts. > > If Varregions supported ODE then it would be ok to eliminate megaregions. > But until that happens, megaregions are important and need to remain. > > Oren > > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Diva Canto <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yeah, don't worry, there's no rush. We'll wait for people's input. >> Eventually support for megaregions will be dropped. The question is whether >> to drop it on the next release or wait a few more months. >> >> >> On 9/4/2015 4:29 PM, Nicky Perian wrote: >> >> Diva, >> I don't have any technical input but, I don't think a complete input >> cannot be provided by posting this at the beginning of a 3 day holiday >> weekend in the US. Hopefully, a decision will not be made over this >> weekend. >> Nicky >> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 5:34 PM, R.Gunther <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, am fine with it when it get removed. it's not good. >>> But i expect some people that get sad because the still say megaregions >>> work betetr and use that. >>> >>> But Kill it ! :) >>> >>> >>> On 2015-09-05 00:29, Trinity wrote: >>> >>> KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE! >>> >>> Trinity93 >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Diva Canto < <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> We're cleaning up a few things in the code, and came across >>>> megaregions. Now that we have varregions, there is a strong will among core >>>> devs to remove support for megaregions, because they were just a temporary >>>> hack for when viewers didn't understand spaces greater than 256m. Now that >>>> they do, the hack seems unnecessary moving forward. Megaregions >>>> implementation is contrived and makes a lot code unnecessarily complicated. >>>> >>>> Any objections to its removal? >>>> >>>> Diva >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Opensim-dev mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-dev mailing >>> [email protected]http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> [image: Avast logo] <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-dev mailing >> [email protected]http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev >> >> > > > -- > Oren Hurvitz > VP R&D > Kitely Ltd. > > Email: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > >
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