On 10/18/2010 05:20 AM, Stefan Andersson wrote: > > Excellent post. So good in fact, that I will hijack it. > > > > If there are people that have tried (and failed) to use "prebuild > /target monodev" to build and work with opensim, I would be interested > to hear about it. Afaicr at some point in time (years ago, when we > first introduced prebuild) we did get it to work. > > > > /Stefan > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *dz > *Sent:* den 14 oktober 2010 19:59 > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-users] Why not a real OS > > > > Folks, > > Not to add to the religious fervor.... but there's a couple things > that are just NOT right about letting the mis-information slide. > > It's very popular for proponents of each side to wave magic metrics > and declare victory in a race that could have just begun. People > don't come to this list to ask your opinion about Linux vs.Windows IN > GENERAL, they want to know what easiest with OpenSim. > > Its extremely disappointing to me to see that discussion drown out by > the "know-it-alls" spewing their answers. > > OpenSim uses .NET as a platform, as such, If you intend to RUN > OpenSim, you can do it either as a native .NET application under > windows, or on non-windows OS using the open-source MONO environment. > > Among the advantages of using Windows servers: > Historically, it has provided better operating performance for > regions. > Most of the developers seem to be prefer the Microsoft toolchain. > There are no threats of c## "subterfuge" by MS ( the risk of these > seems very small) > > Among the advantages of Mono OS independence: > Wider range of server platforms ( via OS and hardware independence ) > Like all smaller free software efforts, the best way to support it > is to USE it and make it better > > If you select MONO based server platforms, it will pay for you to do > your homework on your selection. Contrary to prior posts, many of the > popular Linux releases (UBUNTU in particular) are notorious for NOT > supporting the latest release of MONO. That is not to say that you > cannot build the latest version of MONO, but the "regular" > repositories of supported software won't have it. All religious > preferences aside, If you want to pick a linux distro with the latest > and greatest MONO has to provide I would recommend you go to the > Novell SuSe distribution. > > There are always arguments on both sides of the questions that touch > the religion wars off. For me, in this project, the most telling sign > that Windows is the "preference" of the core developers is that there > is still little or no support for the MONOdevelope IDE. Make and > build on Linux from source still depends on the old-school command > line tools. Lots of people are comfortable enough with their Linux > skills to cope with that requirement.. > > Personally, I'm one of the "irrational" believers that we vote > loudest with our actions, so I pay to host linux machines for our > internal OpenSim development machines, and generally make it known I > prefer NOT to pay Microsoft whenever that option presents itself. > Your Satisfaction is not guaranteed by adopting that plan :) > > D. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >
Prebuild was getting a little dated for monodevelop and our build system didn't produce proper solution files for monodevelop. Therfore monodevelop got a bad rap as being a hack, half implemented, etc. . So, I reworked our build system a little bit, adding some patches upstream to Prebuild.exe to provide proper solutions to our build system to support both monodevelop and xbuild. Now monodevelop may be used as a fully working IDE for OpenSim, debugger included. Also, xbuild for the command line works. And, Native git support is slated for Monodevelop 2.6. I have never used the free VS, but this might be a viable alternative for Windows users as well. Here are some notes about the updates and setting your addon-module prebuild.xml files to work with the new system. These is also a small python script to help with the migration. The link is here: http://bluewallvirtual.com/node/9 . (Teravus got the search working on opensimulator.org \o/ , I will try to update the site there with this information when time allows. It is good that we are striving for platform neutrality. This allows a person to use whatever tools are suited best for their abilities and taste. Thanks! BlueWall
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