Ok, to let you know, I am on the East Coast, lucky to have a cable
connection to the web with 30 mbps download and only 3.80 mbps upload.
I am legally blind with a kidney transplant and can't afford another
machine. My imune suppressants have many side efects, mood swings,
alergy to sun light, and fluxuating blood sugars.
I don't go out often because of all this, so any extra money I have left
goes into my computer and internet. Nothing else fun left to do. I
live in my oomputer in a way. All I can imaging is trying to max the
efficiency of one machine, my wife has her own.
And from what I read the am3+ broke over clocking records. Maybe with
an additional 1 TB solid state drive for faster assetts wouldn't hurt
either.
InuYasha
On 5/23/2012 8:38 AM, Ovi Chris Rouly wrote:
Chris,
I thoroughly agree. I have been running 16 OS processes (256 regions)
on the same box for a few years now and have never seen these
problems. Last semester we taught a class AND ran two tests: first
we set up the GMU Fairfax campus on first a 4 OS process install
(4OSx16regions) and then completed the class on a 1 OS process install
with 64 regions. Both worked quite well although the 1X64 with +18K
prims was a "little" laggy but still tolerable.
http://gisagents.blogspot.com/
My personal preference from a "headaches" perspective remains a
distributed approach. The use of dual Intel multi-core/hyperthreaded
CPUs and a strong, well-threaded operating system is hard to beat.
Best of all, if I understand correctly, "may be" the cloud
architecture that our friends out on the west coast are using .....
I'd really like to know more about how to set one of "those" up.
Chris
Ovi Chris Rouly
Dept. of Comp. Soc. Sci.
George Mason University
Fairfax, VA
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We ran into memory issues when we had 32 regions on a single
simulator and shortly thereafter switched to ~ 4 regions per
opensim process architecture. The overall memory allocation went
up, but the performance improved considerably. Have you tried
portioning things out across multiple opensim processes?
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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:54 AM, InuYasha Meiji
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Not that is will make a difference, but I run 56 not 64. I
rebooted my system and checked stats. The memory used started
at 1205 and over night without any use that I know of, it rose
up to 5349 MB. I would be saving cost of installation, with
my knowledge and my wife's good sight, I can do the install
myself. Getting all the parts for the upgrade to a AM3+ 8
core bulldozer on a FX990 MSI mobo and 32 gig of crucial DDR3,
for under $600 would be worth it for opensim or not?
It will take me sacrifice and lots of effort. I didn't want
to go through all that and find out even that won't run my 56
regions well. I thought I might have set something wrong. I
double checked last night to be sure I used MySQL for cashing
regions and not the default memory setting. I did it right,
so it wasn't that. Anyone know of any memory leaks in the ODE
or something else to do with version 7.3.1?
InuYasha.
On 5/22/2012 11:37 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
I'm very surprised at the big difference between actual
heap allocation (883 mb) and actual process allocation
(6193mb). You might want to monitor memory usage over
time - it might be that some kind of peak in heap has put
the process memory up to a permanently higher level.
Unfortunately, memory usage on OpenSimulator will go up
and down quite a bit as many objects are allocated before
the GC kicks in.
That said, 64 regions on a single simulator is definitely
a stretch, I think. You might want to check what the
difference is between your empty sims and the one with data.
I believe there is scope for better memory efficiency in
OpenSimulator but it might be difficult to make really
huge savings. Unlike a web-server, OpenSimulator (and
many other VE systems) has to keep data permanently in
memory for speed of response.
On 22/05/12 15:57, InuYasha Meiji wrote:
I was working on building content for my grid when I
got a warning from windows during using an external
application. I
typed "Show stats" in the console to find this.
CONNECTION STATISTICS
Abnormal client thread terminations: 0
FRAME STATISTICS
Dilatn SimFPS PhyFPS AgntUp RootAg ChldAg Prims AtvPrm
AtvScr ScrLPS
1.00 50 51.7 0.0 0 0 60 0 4 0
PktsIn PktOut PendDl PendUl UnackB TotlFt NetFt PhysFt
OthrFt AgntFt ImgsFt
0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
MEMORY STATISTICS
Allocated to OpenSim objects: 883 MB
Process memory : 6193 MB
Region (root) #
Now I have a lot more I want to add to my grid. I
currently run all that you see in my tag lines.
Opensim User: Standalone Grid on Version 0.7.3.1 with
56 Regions
on Windows 7, 64-bit. Phenom 9500 2.2 ghz Quad Core,
Terabyte Hard
Drive, 8gig DDR2 RAM. Used XAMPP to load PHP Version
5.3.0, Apache
and MySQL 5.1.41-community edition. Groups, Profiles,
Voice and
Offline Mesages all working. (Not yet Public, 6 users
allowed Now).
I only have one sim with much on it, I was planning on
making the other sims well forested and a couple more
villages
and then Shuri Castle from Okinawa in the middle. The
reason for 56 regions was to make a nice 1.5 mile
landscape all
the way around the castle and surrounding villages.
Am I expecting to much of my system and Opensim to be
able to do this on one computer. I plan to eventually
upgrade to a
32 gig DDR3, am3+ bulldozer motherboard. Looking at
what little it took to fill over 6 gig of ram, I am
worried after I
save up a while and get the upgrade that it won't be
enough to do all the things I dream of.
Am I over reaching? I thought opensim even in 64bit
used some disk cashing, and wouldn't use all the
available ram? I
still want to be able to do other things with my
machine while running my grid. Seems I can't always do
that without a
shutdown a program warning from windows 7.
Info is welcome.
InuYasha
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