I am sorry, I am a bit prone to mood swings, on account of being both,
an insulin dependent diabetic and after an 8 year wait on dialysis, I
am on kidney transplant immune suppressants. This whole conversation is
starting to depress the %^&* out of me, wondering if all of this is
worth my time and money anymore. When I discovered Opensim, I thought,
finally I can have enough land to build something impressive. I once
built the most important building of Shuri called the Seiden of Shuri in
a sim called Butler in Secondlife. Now I could build the entire castle
on my own grid, and choose a time period and scale. With enough
research to build a historically accurate Castle during its golden
era.. I have researched more then 5 years on this project, only to be
sure I had enough detail and knowledge of the culture to create what was
around in the late 16th early 17th century.
I have been saving money by not eating as well, I lost 32 pounds in
three months. It should be another year, or year and a half, to get a
monster of a server to run it on. As I save up, prices cme down to
built a twin AMD 3+ Bulldozers each with 16 cores to run it on.
This conversation has me thinking only about people stealing my assets,
makeing me think, why bother. To me the realease of Snowcrashe's
software makes it easy for anyone to just freely grab all my work, I
give on my grid, for use on my grid, and drag it off someplace, even SL
to resell and use no matter how I try to protect myself and my work.
Also from what he said other "black hatters" can do it ANYWAYS. To me
this means hours of hand texturing, the hours I spent building, till my
one good eye gives me such a headache I pop tylonol like candy.
IT takes me more time and effort to do as much as some with only one
working eye. I want it to stay here on my grid unless I choose to sell
it in another grid like Secondlife. I also don't want my grid a
16th-17th century grid becoming filled with airplanes and cars and other
modern items. Can someone tell me now, why should I even put more work
into creating this world and taking any more of my life creating
anything anymore??
InuYasha.
On 11/17/2012 2:47 AM, Snowcrash Short wrote:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:50 PM, What Virtual World - Martin Forster
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Hello Snowcrash,
I think it is good having software to backup your items but....
As melanie sayed before, the ability to backup "Any" item would
not be a good idea as your software will be banned from major
grids due to this.
To be honest we would also blacklist your software if we think it
can be at harm for the creators in our grid.
Please think if this:
Most people can not make a "copybot vieuwer" as the things people
need for that are available but also complicated to build if you
dont have any experiance.
If your software is easy to compile without any knowledge it will
be a base for people to create these "copybot's" with.
This will not be the best advertisment for your software in my
believe.
I think it will be best not to make it an opensource project ..
but just distribute only in binary form.
Also making it TPV compliant will be even better.
If it protects content from beeing ilegaly copied on "any grid" we
will support it for sure.
Just my two cents ...
The backup feature, which really is only a small part of the overall
featureset, currently operates in one of two modes, TPV compliant mode
and unrestricted mode. MyInventory forces the download component to be
TPV compatible when connecting to any known Linden Labs grid (and
similar protection is underway for other grids), My original mail had
two topics.
1) Which grids would like to have the same hardcoded protection level
against unrestricted download as Linden Labs
2) This tool may - if it becomes popular - create a lot of duplicate
assets, therefore I came up with a suggestion on how to alleviate this
problem.
Going closed source is simply "security by obscurity" under a
different name, the "black hatters" already have the ability to take
what they want, claiming that content creators assets are safe is
simply not true, and that fact holds for Linden Labs grids as well.
Even if you decide to block MyInventory, the blocking tools are so
inadequate in these days of fast recycling DHCP servers, that all you
will manage to do is to block out legitimate users, the "black
hatters" can easily get around these limitations. And is that really
what you want?
Best regards,
Martin Forster
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Snowcrash Short <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:44 AM
*Subject:* [Opensim-users] Announcement of inventory tool
(MyInventory), mostly of interest to grid operators/grid nauts
Hi
I've been working on a client side tool for decentralizing
user inventories, which I will release as an open source tool
in two weeks, some of the features may be relevant to grid
operators.
The basic premise of the tool is that the inventory and the
backing assets of the inventory items really should be
controlled by the user. The tool is born out of a frustration
of having visited a number of grids. Each visit to a new grid
presents me with an empty inventory, and I can then spend time
searching for suitable item, clothing, attachments and
other accessories.
For this purpose I have created a tool which will allow me to
backup my inventory to a local cache and then upload the
contents to another grid.
If my tool becomes popular, both the upload and download
mechanisms may have some impact on the grid-operators, hence
this email to serve as a notice.
The basic architecture is pretty simple, consisting of a
number of import agents, which can import the users inventory
and backing assets to a local database, and a number of upload
agents which can upload inventory content to a specific account.
Backup/Import
There are two import agents, one which will import .iar files
and one which works very much like I believe "Stored
Inventory" works, which can backup the inventory of an avatars
inventory. Avatar backup/Import is governed by a policy.
Currently there are two policies, one complying with a very
restrictive interpretation of the Linden Labs policy on
backups, and a completely unrestricted policy, where anything
that can be downloaded will be downloaded.
When a new account is registered in MyInventory it checks if
the account is for a Linden Lab grid and limits the choices of
policies to policies suitable for LL's TOS, I cannot and do
not know if other grids have similar policies, I can well
imagine that Avination has a similar restrictions, and would
like similar logic implemented to restrict the download. Any
grid operator which would like to have backup governed by a
more restrictive policy are invited to notify me and I will
attempt to implement the policy prior to the first release of
the source code. or supply patches at a later time.
Upload/Export
MyInventory supports two mechanisms for uploading inventory
content, traditional upload using UDP/CAPS and direct access
to the inventory and asset web-services.
Due to limitations in the UDP/CAPS protocol each upload will
create new assets, and as of my latest read of the Open
Simulator code the asset store does not support "single
instance assets", i.e. it does not use a checksum to verify if
the asset already exists, for this reason MyInventory prefers
to upload using direct access to asset and inventory web-services.
I would propose that the grids which chooses to support
MyInventory augment their "GridInfoService" entries with the
url's for the asset and inventory web-services, e.g.
[GridInfoService]
assets = http://assets.osgrid.org
inventory = http://inventory.osgrid.org
Best regards
Snowcrash
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