Help me understand.... I see the need for openid or atleast for cross
over communication from network to network, just like AT&T can't only
route calls from AT&T calls. The need for all players to use each
others tech in order to truly be effective in communication is
necessary. I would not want to have to have a Sprint, Verizon, and
AT&T account to talk to my friends who have the various phone
providers.  So, are we not talking about the same situation of not
wanting to have to sign up for facebook, myspace and others to connect
with our friends who might be using a network other than the one I am
using. Phones were a great invention, but the power was not leveraged
until everyone had one and did not have to go to the local operator to
make a phone call....

On Nov 2, 9:16 am, "Aaron Cheung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hmm, very debatable.. I have been using social networks to locate old
> friends
> and have been pretty successful so far.. they're real persons and old
> friends
> (ie., people i know, actually for 30+ yrs), but then, lost contacts (some
> for
> over 25 years, before even email was "became popular").. that said,
> regarding
> new friends, well, ask the linkedin.com guys.. and, people search would be
> good size biz from within facebook (already?) and etc etc. (too many to
> name)..
> cheers, /ac.
>
> On 11/2/07, kiakanpa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > aaron, i see social networks as a way to stay in contact with people
> > you know, not to find new friends. therefore findability is irrelevent
> > as you tell people your openid as you would an email
>
> > On Nov 2, 1:48 pm, "Aaron Cheung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Not so sure if openid enables a person's findability well enough, and
> > > if not, then the opensocial apis won't be living up to their potential..
> > ;-)
> > > /ac.
>
> > > On 11/2/07, kiakanpa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > I think using the DNS in a mannor similar to openid (or just use
> > > > openid - why reinvent the wheel) would be fine. a person 'controls' a
> > > > url either set up by themselves or from an existing social network,
> > > > this will allow  a friend with another url to find them. Data can then
> > > > be exchanged using opensocial api, but, and this is the big bit, there
> > > > friends can be added based on the openid url, i.e. the friend could be
> > > > on any social network or not be on a network but have implimented the
> > > > server side api themselves i.e. it would all be open
>
> > > > On Nov 2, 12:51 pm, "Aaron Cheung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I think a lot could be inferred from the DNS system in existence,
> > which
> > > > is
> > > > > reasonably proven, save a few weaknesses, but then nothing is
> > perfect..
>
> > > > > That said, even DNS requires a bunch of Root Servers.. in which
> > case,
> > > > > is the DNS system DEcentralized enough, given decentralization being
> > > > > of beneficial importance.. plus, also, there's this Registry concept
> > as
> > > > > well..
>
> > > > > Then, what about the P2P kind of decentralization.. and the Skype
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > operational experience, for example, also nicely proven thus far..
>
> > > > > Or mightbe there're more pertinent protocols/rfcs someone's working
> > > > on?..
>
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > /ac.
>
> > > > > On 11/2/07, kiakanpa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Dont get me wrong, this looks good and i am thankful to google for
> > > > > > this, but i am a developer. It unfortunatly does not solve the
> > real
> > > > > > problem of social networking. Until there is a common
> > DECENTRALIZED
> > > > > > social network this is all a bit pointless. I can develop an app
> > that
> > > > > > can be ran on myspace and linkedin (for example), but until a
> > myspace
> > > > > > user can add a linkedin user as a friend we are still stuck with
> > the
> > > > > > current 'silo' social networks.
>
> > > > > > Now, google how about extending the api to have openid & foaf
> > built
> > > > > > in? that way every user can be unique regardless of which social
> > > > > > network they are on, and they can access the correct server (via
> > > > > > openid) to add friends from anywhere.
>
> > > > > > I know it will involve work, and could be done independantly, but
> > > > > > unless it is part of the official api it will be ignored.
>
> > > > > > heres hoping- Hide quoted text -
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