Martin Schaffstall wrote:
> On 9/21/06, Casper.Dik at sun.com <Casper.Dik at sun.com> wrote:
>> Because we need one shell and /sbin/sh suffices for now.
>
>
> Sounds you like being a little sadist and punish users with /sbin/sh.
> Casper, could you elaborate why Sun is not willing to address the
> problems with /sbin/sh and isn't even willing to support an
> alternative, pls?
Martin and others,
Please try and make a distinction between the various roles that
people are playing in this conversation, and don't jump to misinformed
conclusions about conspiracies...
Casper is involved in this discussion in his roles as a PSARC
Licensee, a Sun employed engineer, and as a member of the
opensolaris-arc community. In particular, he is not participating in
his role as a CAB member, nor does he even *have* a role as "policy
maker and spokesperson for Sun".
You should read his (and mine, and others) email as being one person's
opinion. Granted, Casper has considerable experience, but, like
anyone of us, he can be wrong, misinformed or even outvoted.
ARC Review is a discussion among senior engineers about the impact of
a project on OpenSolaris. The views expressed by the participants
certainly aren't set by Sun management, don't necessarily reflect
those of our sponsors, and probably won't even be understood by them.
In general, they are opinions based on past experience, and many
times reflect deep understandings of problems in areas that others
didn't even realize existed. As the ARC Review discussion progresses,
the participants on all sides are expected to learn and adapt so that,
over time, they converge on a mutually agreeable outcome. That
outcome isn't set in stone, and certainly isn't set by any single person.
Rest assured that everyone I know who is involved in this ksh93
discussion wants the project to succeed. They just want it to succeed
in a way that does the least damage to the existing Open- and
Closed-Solaris systems, and in a way that best provides for the future
evolution of both ksh93 *and* OpenSolaris with the minimum of disruption.
We now return to your regularly scheduled debate...
-John