I have pretty much said it already that much has to be done and OpenSolaris
unfortunately does not have the luxury of taking it at a slow pace. At a slow
pace the interest in OpenSolaris will fade off - I fear.
I am not sure if I can "advise" nor do I have a concrete plan but all I can say
is that you guys need to penetrate more into the community - via conferences,
online tutorials, driver writing fest - ideas are not scarce. We need more details
in the blogs - not just dtrace scripts - how about Solaris scheduler function, how
about DTrace implementation details etc.? There is very less known about Solaris
kernel code by even lesser number of people which needs to be fixed - I am not
saying it is an overnight job - but none the less there has to be significant effort
around developer evangelism and spreading of
the technical knowledge. Key is
to enable mere mortals to contribute good quality code.
Since you asked - Right now to me, the perception is that there is less technical and more
<<insert that damn BUR??... word here >> talk. Of course several have denied that and at
the same time assured that we will get there soon - so I have, for now granted folks the benefit
of insufficient time if you will..
And I would like to apologize if I did hurt anybody's feelings - I know you guys are hard at work
and I have seen some true zeal here to make OpenSolaris a success. I am sure things will be
sorted out soon and hacking OpenSolaris will be both easy and fun.
Success
--- On Mon 08/29, Michael Pogue < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From: Michael Pogue [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:01:14 -0700
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bug fix process overly burdonsome ?
Steven,
My sense from following this conversation is that you've listened to
what the Sun folks have said about the pace, direction, and the current
process (e.g. bug fixing, CAB, SCM), and yet you're still unconvinced
that we're moving forward as quickly as we can.
What advice would you give us, to help demonstrate more forward
progress in these areas? (I promise I won't answer with point-by-point
counter-examples.... I really want to understand how we're being
perceived right now. :-)
Mike
S Destika wrote:
> Thanks for the long explanation.
>
> My concern is that things are not moving at a good enough pace, they are not going in the right direction and the slow pace is due to Sun's highly
bureaucratic governance. Secondly the process isn't open and inviting enough - The complete Solaris development has to be opened up - Sun Engineers need to develop and discuss in the open - otherwise how will aspiring folks get to know the technology and understand the development model?
>
> Now people are saying here that it is natural enough for such a project to take time to be opened up fully - but no one has clearly explained exactly what is taking time. People have done amazing things in less time if you look else where.
>
> Java vs. .NET - I think Microsoft has done a decent job with .NET in short time. Look at the time Sun is taking in implementing a nice native looking GUI in Java. Look at how much time Sun took just to implement shared classes ? Apple had to do it. The whole JSR process is again highly formal, time consuming and burdensome. Sun needs to find a faster and efficient way of doing things. Waiting years for
things to happen isn't my definition of success. Sun should be able to take help from community to fix things as quickly as possible.
>
> Ok so lastly, I am hoping CAB members will be able to speed up things and garner interest from lots of developers and we will see a lot of action in short time.
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