On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 09:55:44AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >It would be useful if OpenSolaris' libc were compatible with the GPL.
> >Given that there's no BSD or CDDL replacement for gcc, it's going to
> >become a problem for people who want a distribution that has source code
> >to everything.
> 
> libc is not an issue because GPL allows linking against it.
> 
> haveing a GPL'ed libc, however, is a serious problem because it
> doesn't allow including non-GPL'ed code.  LGPL'ed libc, maybe; but
> OpenSolaris libc cannot be put on GPL or LGPL for the same reasons
> as the rest.

Euh, so all non-GPLed compatible software shipped by Linuxdistros is
problematic ? I believe this is the reason why the glibc is not GPLed but
LGPLed, let me check, ..., indeed the glibc is LGPLed, which change all those
arguments a bit, and the call was for a LGPL compatible CDDL, not a GPL
compatible one, which is a slightly different topic.

There are other libraries, like libparted and libreadline, which are all
FSF/GNU projects too, which are under the stricter GPL.

> >Some people have legitimate interest in both OpenSolaris and GPL
> >software. It's a concern to those of us who do that there seems to be
> >conflict.
> 
> I think Roy is merely pointing out that "OpenSolaris should be under
> GPL" discussions and there derivatives ("CDDL is better than GPL",
> "GPL is better than CDDL", "GPL is not free", "CDDL is not free")
> are pointless and have no place on opensolaris-discuss because the
> license situations is not going to change.

Hehe, now replace it with the real thing, namely :

  1) OpenSolaris is not LGPL compatible and thus you cannot link OpenSolaris
  userland with glibc or other LGPL libraries.

  2) The CDDL is possibly considered non-free by Debian because of the choice
  of venue clause. And since the debian DFSG was what evolved later in the OSI
  guidelines, that indeed carries some weight.

And i believe it would be good for the CDDL to change in this aspect, or at
least be clear about it, instead of indulging in "my licence is better than
yours" kind of discussion :)

(and for all those who don't like licencing discussion, nobody forces you to
read this thread, unless you have a really bad email client :)

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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