On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 09:35:19AM -0700, Rich Teer wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> 
> > > And how is that different to the license explictely stating that the venue
> > > is is Santa Clara and tough uck if you live in Outer Mongolia.
> >
> > Exact, which is why choice-of-venue clause in licences are to be shuned, and
> 
> Huh?  I don't see how you could arrive at your position from what I stated.

The only thing that a choice-of-venue of this kind allows is to facilitate the
licensor to sue random people all over.

> > Then you have to go to a swedish court and sue me there. The default rules
> 
> Why should I (or you, or anyone else), as an independant author, be subjected
> to unnecessary expense in order to protect my rights?
> 
> As Casper said, I think you'll find that most often, it is the person
> who starts the suit that gets to pick venue.

Well, this is not the return i had when i (unofficially) investigated this
issue over the ocaml/QPL issue last year, where i was told that you can sue
someone only where he lives, is based or makes business.

> > Well. but if the UK then refuse to aknowledge the Swedish judgement, what 
> > have
> > you gained ?
> 
> Huh?  I'm, hoping the Swedish authorities will enforce the judgement.
> But I think you're changing the subject.

Let's say the defendent lives in china, or some random african state for
example, then.

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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