On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 10:05:22AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > the linux community. I tried to be helpfull, provide my knowledge of various
> > free/open/whatever software licences, and dispell some clear FUD and
> > misunderstanding, and i admit, indulged in some mails which where not fully 
> > on
> > topic, but i think i have been reasonable and neither rude nor agresive, and
> > nobody forced you to read my stuff if you where not interested.
> >
> > And given that i am trying to help start a Debian GNU/OpenSolaris port, how
> > can you say that these discussions are useless ? And just because i don't
> > agree with you, i am being provocant ? 
> 
> If you don't agree, please send anything that could prove your opinion
> but don't repeat things that you cannot prove again and gagain.
> 
> My impression is that you are discrediting the Debian project by
> repeating unproven claims of a single person that once did come up with
> anti-social demands on Debian legal.

See my other email. And if you are curious, i think the latest thread
concernign choice-of-venue is :

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/02/msg00036.html

A choice quote there, in the first reply, from on of debian's Release Managers
is :

  The problem with choice of venue clauses is that anyone who accepts the
  license must also accept the burden of defending themselves against charges
  of license violation in a court which is likely to have an implicit bias in
  favor of the copyright holder: first because courts will often favor, or can
  often be manipulated to favor, a party to the suit who is local to them; and
  second because the cost of litigation is frequently unequal when one party
  is geographically much closer than the other.

There is more too, and i am sure i saw the current DPL, Branden Robinson,
voicing itself against choice of venue also, but i can't find back the email
among the many hundred if not thousand concerning this subject.

So, again, you are being uninformed or deceptive when you speak about a single
person.

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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