On 11/25/05, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Don't call things optional that are needed to make
> > UNIX homey
> > to people....
>
> Sorry, but I must say, what is too much is too much!
> There is no reason gtar should be included when there is tar or star just for 
> the reason of catering to Linux crowd.
>
> Solaris is Solaris, if they came over to Solaris then they better learn 
> Solaris. Otherwise, they can stay with Linux and be "homey".
>
> If someone can't live without their GNU tools, soon enough they'll have the 
> pkgadd tools and they can add whatever they need from Blastwave.
>
> Maybe we should rename OpenSolaris to "OpenSolinux" so that the Linux crowd 
> would feel "more at home"?

I get tarballs all the time that require the non-standard GNU behavior
to extract, and I would be annoyed if I had to install blastwave for
something so trivial.  And if the distribution is called GNU/Solaris,
I would expect some basic GNU tools, yes;  Linux has nothing to do
with that.  And wouldn't it be OpenSoHurd? :)

> > Since approx. 1995 when bash became usable, things
> > did change and
> > it seems that there are people who like to see bash
> > everywhere.
> > Note that csh is just a nightmare compared to bash.
>
> I've been using tcsh since at least 1995 and possibly earlier, and even then 
> it had loads and loads of features that still trod bash into the ground today.
> I don't know why you didn't know about it, but I can say it's not my fault... 
> I didn't know you existed back then! :)

Lots of people prefer the various incarnations of Csh, and kudos to
them, but the official posix shell is a variation on the Bourne shell,
and bash can (in theory at least) emulate this posixly correct
behavior.

Cheers,
Dave
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