On Thursday 13 April 2006 03:24 pm, Philip Brown wrote: > *wave*. *wave*.;-)
(I've been away on vacation for a week, and have over 2000 messages in my inbox, but it happened that yours was at the top of the stack;-) You forgot to mention that you a conspirator in the [EMAIL PROTECTED], err...I mean secret six.;-) That was over 4 years ago now...things have seemed to change slightly since those days...and Blastwave was formed not long before/after, but around the same time. Read on... > Now, eventually, sun caught up, and shipped bar 1.1 > But by that time, we were already shipping packages that depended on > CSWbar, not SFWbar. It would be really bad policy to go back and > force-recompile and repackage CSWfoo to depend on SFWbar, when SFWbar > is going to be out of date again soon enough. I think a lot of folks are aware of this mess, not only with you folks, but other distributions are now coming up with their own trees also. To some extent I've learned over the past 4 years that yes, the libraries that were shipped by Sun became outdated, and in some cases to run Sun's packages was to not be using the new great features. Case in point, KDE. I can't fault Blastwave for their move to support their libs, quite honestly that would probably have been what most anyone would have done in the same situation. Sun's use of GNOME only complicates things a lot more though, IMO, and I think you would agree which you point out specifics on. However, what I personally would like to see is the same thing I've always invisioned from the days of yesteryear...That we could have a full distribution that rivaled any of the open source distributions with Solaris as our core, rather than Linux (Debian specific, or shall we say apt functionality). Who would have thought Solaris would become open sources, the thought was laughable 4+ years when the topic surfaced. So, how would it be possible to build a large set of libraries that everyone could update and use together? Is this at all possible? Sun has basically proposed to work with the community, and that is happening, albeit slowly...so would it at all be possible to work with the community and create one large set of libraries we all work with and update together? IOW, Debian unstable tree, and then move things over in static form for specific Solaris releases. I think there needs to be some line here, because folks that want to stay on a specific release will be hard to satisfy for library dependencies. Does this interest you at all Phil? How can we get folks together on the same playing field, everyone, the blastwaves, the nexentras, pkgsrc, et all...or is this even possible? I think it would be possible to give these folks an option by having a common set of libs that Sun and Community participates in, what do you think? I don't think everyone will agree to use libs even if they were available, but it would be nice if there was a way for that to happen, IMO. -- Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems Solaris x86 Engineering _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org