On Thursday 13 April 2006 03:24 pm, Philip Brown wrote:
> *wave*.

*wave*.;-)

(I've been away on vacation for a week, and have over 2000 messages in my 
inbox, but it happened that yours was at the top of the stack;-)

You forgot to mention that you a conspirator in the [EMAIL PROTECTED], err...I 
mean 
secret six.;-) That was over 4 years ago now...things have seemed to change 
slightly since those days...and Blastwave was formed not long before/after, 
but around the same time. Read on...

> Now, eventually, sun caught up, and shipped bar 1.1
> But by that time, we were already shipping packages that depended on
> CSWbar, not SFWbar. It would be really bad policy to go back and
> force-recompile and repackage CSWfoo to depend on SFWbar, when SFWbar
> is going to be out of date again soon enough.

I think a lot of folks are aware of this mess, not only with you folks, but 
other distributions are now coming up with their own trees also.

To some extent I've learned over the past 4 years that yes, the libraries that 
were shipped by Sun became outdated, and in some cases to run Sun's packages 
was to not be using the new great features. Case in point, KDE. I can't fault 
Blastwave for their move to support their libs, quite honestly that would 
probably have been what most anyone would have done in the same situation.

Sun's use of GNOME only complicates things a lot more though, IMO, and I think 
you would agree which you point out specifics on.

However, what I personally would like to see is the same thing I've always 
invisioned from the days of yesteryear...That we could have a full 
distribution that rivaled any of the open source distributions with Solaris 
as our core, rather than Linux (Debian specific, or shall we say apt 
functionality). Who would have thought Solaris would become open sources, the 
thought was laughable 4+ years when the topic surfaced.

So, how would it be possible to build a large set of libraries that everyone 
could update and use together? Is this at all possible? Sun has basically 
proposed to work with the community, and that is happening, albeit 
slowly...so would it at all be possible to work with the community and create 
one large set of libraries we all work with and update together? IOW, Debian 
unstable tree, and then move things over in static form for specific Solaris 
releases. I think there needs to be some line here, because folks that want 
to stay on a specific release will be hard to satisfy for library 
dependencies.

Does this interest you at all Phil? How can we get folks together on the same 
playing field, everyone, the blastwaves, the nexentras, pkgsrc, et all...or 
is this even possible? I think it would be possible to give these folks an 
option by having a common set of libs that Sun and Community participates in, 
what do you think? I don't think everyone will agree to use libs even if they 
were available, but it would be nice if there was a way for that to happen, 
IMO.

-- 

Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems
Solaris x86 Engineering


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