Philip Brown wrote:

On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 06:10:31PM -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote:
Sun has staff now to handle most of what they do, but this doesn't allow Sun to work with the community.

btw: there's a difference between "working with the community", and
"meeting the needs of the community".

you dont have to do #1 (in the sense of, "community members get write
access"), to fulfil #2.

There is a small, but important difference between,
"people can see the codebase, and submit patch suggestions to full-time
sun employees", and
"this chunk o' code/binary is 100% maintained by a non-sun-employee"

opensolaris.org is, as far as I understand it, using the first model.
You seem to be pushing for the second model, for this common freeware
base.

I'm not sure if that's what Alan is pushing for or not, but one things for sure: It seems way more logical to speculate that a significant percentage of volunteers in such an endeavor would be Sun employees as well as non-Sun employees.

I believe that the first model is best both for opensolaris.org "solaris"
code, and also for any affiliated sun-blessed common set of freeware.

When it comes to an un-supported-by-Sun set of freeware, I see absolutely no reason to have a Sun-blessed -- as opposed to community-blessed -- set of freeware.


But my point being, that would require dedicated sun employees for the
task... which sun seems to be moving away from.

I think it's important here not to miss the important boundry between un-supported-by-Sun freeware (CCD, blastwave, etc.) and Sun-supported freeware (SFW, JDS, X, etc). With that in mind, the thing I think (FWIW) we need is this: an un-supported-by-Sun freeware set that also serves as a "bullpen" for stuff to be migrated to Sun-supported freeware -- e.g. migration to the SFW, JDS, or X, consolidations. (With the volunteers who are working the bullpen coming from, as I said, Sun as well as non-Sun ranks.)

Maybe this new "bullpen" project needs to be built on the CSW project, maybe the CCD project, maybe the JDS (spec-files-extra) project, maybe something else, maybe a hybrid...

In any case, I'm really looking forward to that being figured out ASAP.

Eric

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