----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 12:54 pm Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What is OpenSolaris?
> James Carlson wrote: <snip snip> > Keep in mind, though, that those Sun engineers are all now > OpenSolaris > developers. The goal is open development without the need to think > of > "@sun people" and "non-Sun people." Granted, this will take more > time as > more and more people move to working in the open and on new > infrastructure. But you can see that after the initial launch of > OpenSolaris last year, we've been releasing code quite literally > all > year long, forming communities and projects, etc. We are opening in > stages, which is the only way to do this. But the *foundation* for > being > a self-sustaining community is being constructed. I'm happy you > trust > us, and I think our intent will be acknowledged (eventually) by > those > who don't. Yes, it's absolutely apparent that things are moving forward, and more and more as time goes by this will be absolutely and 100% be "The OpenSolaris community", nothing more nothing less! No differentiation between people other than based on their contributions, insight, and personality. :) > Sun is serious when it says that the OpenSolaris *community* now > controls OpenSolaris, although I certainly recognize that people > outside > the company can't always see that in all areas right now because > the > program is not yet complete (Constitution to come, Dev process to > come, > SCM to come, more code to come, etc). Most people are cutting us > the > slack we need, which is great. The intent is there, the road maps > are > there, the infrastructure to support all that is coming, and it's > all > being discussed out in the open. All that works for me. Yes, I can see that now - it looks like everything is going in the right direction! I'm glad people are open to discussing it in public lists as well, because it really does clear up a lot, and not everybody has been here since the "big bang" that formed OSOL. Sometimes re-clarifying things is in need, as it was in this case, for myself. > James mentioned the CAB. Good point. The CAB is now the OGB, as per > the > OpenSolaris Charter. I think the Charter outlines well the scope of > the > OGB -- an independent body representing the OpenSolaris community: > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/charter/ > That's a pretty extraordinary document for a big company to sign > off on, > don't you think? It turned a few heads around here, you know. > Non-OpenSolaris heads, I mean. :) You're right, and I hadn't really looked through it myself until James brought it up. It also clarified a lot for me. I hope all new (and even old) community members give it a good read. It speaks volumes. > There have been relatively few comments about the Charter from the > community and no comments from observers outside the community -- > press, > analysts, competitors, supporters, etc. But it's a big deal. It's > quite > literally the creation of a community and the formation of a system > of > open governance. I think awareness might be an issue. I personally wouldn't have read it if it weren't for James/you. Look for feedback once I go back, re-read it, and have time to digest. ;) I hope everybody takes a moment to do the same, they (Sun) need as much feedback from us as we need from them. > The other half of that is the OpenSolaris Constitution, which will > fill > in all the specifics of membership, elections, etc. The current > draft is > here: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=8813&tstart=0 I'll be reading that following this mail. :) > I have absolute confidence that the Constitution will reflect a > truly > open, merit-based community model and one where everyone is welcome > to > participate at whatever level. Which is good for me since I doubt > I'll > be writing code anytime soon. :) Hehe, seems you're in the same boat as me! > I've enjoyed this thread, so thanks for starting it, David. The > issue > comes up from time to time, as it should. Opening something the > size of > Solaris (in terms of people and technology) is complex. Certainly > way > beyond my brain. Mine as well, which is *why* I started this thread. I'm glad it's been of use to somebody beside myself. I'm excited to see how things progress, it's almost like watching an Opera (or fast paced action movie for those who prefer it..) The best part, it's interactive! Cheers, David _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
