On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-02-20 21:41]:
I still think feeding the lists to a dedicated news server could be the
cleanest approach to providing a way to read the messages by list in
a threaded manner. Either the groups could be read-only, or (my preference,
since I'd rather not use an email interface for something like this) they
could be auto-moderated (must be able to be associated with a registered
email address), or else the server could require authentication (with one's
os.o account and password, I suppose).
Is there an NNTP server that offers this sort of posting policy?
Many require authentication before reading; would this be a "closed"
NNTP server (no feeds) and have everyone read from it directly?
If not, then that cannot be made to work; but having it all in
one place seems fine, I think.
Although it's not high on my infrastructure list (which is mostly
about development and governance at the moment), I don't have a
problem with running a news server eventually. (I am nervous about
running news, mail, and web forums in fully gatewayed fashion,
however...)
I'd love to have a news server which properly deals with cross posting
too (I once wrote a mail2news gateway script which would recognize all
groups and just post it with the message id from the mail message
[this has some potential issues as the Usenet message id is restricted]
and so duplicate posts were prevented)
Usenet, it's just like RSS but better :-)
Casper
As a possible near-term alternative, there's the (truly amazing) Gmane.org
system. In fact Gmane already is carrying some opensolaris lists (I don't
know the who/when/why). Last night I posted a test message to
opensolaris-discuss via their posting interface. I needed to be subscribed
to opensolaris-discuss, and that's it. (Except, the Gmane system also
required me to do a one-time, per-list, verification of my e-mail address.)
I've looked over Gmane in depth in the past, and again last night. The
benefits/features/performance are, IMO, extremely impressive [1]. The big
downside is that if a community gets really hooked on Gmane, it could
create an undesirable dependency. Reason being, although the software is
apparently open and available, it is definitely not developed and
documented with distribution (separate, independent deployment) in mind.
Eric
1. From the homepage:
Several mailing list archives exist, but these are all hidden under a
web interface. Reading mail that way is not convenient. Reading mail as
if it were news is convenient.
This is what Gmane offers. Mailing lists are funneled into news
groups. This isn't a new idea; several mail-to-news gateways exist.
What's new with Gmane is that no messages are ever expired from the
server, and the gateway is bidirectional. You can post to some of these
mailing lists without being subscribed to them yourself, depending on
whether the mailing lists allow non-subscribers to post or not.
In addition, Gmane does spam detection, cross-post handling, has a
TMDA-fueled encryption/forwarding service, a web interface, respects
X-No-Archive, supplies RSS feeds, uses SPF, gathers traffic statistics,
and has a real-time indexing search engine.
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