> Yes that is a real argument which I agree totally.
> Here is my point of view. If I have a piece of
> hardware that does not 
> work, I will try to find one driver on Internet.
> If it works, I am happy, without bothering about how
> it is implemented. 
> On the other hand, if I just
> can not find a driver, that annoy me very much.
> Solaris already have good driver framework, and a lot
> of documents. But 
> still is lack of drivers. How could
> we cultivate an active community for writing drives
> without enabling 
> them to use it ? In the long run, it would
> be idea if hardware vendors will provide drivers, or
> the community will 
> do it. But how could we achieve that
> without enabling users to  use the hardware ? I think
> we are here 
> arguing about solution for that.

Sooner or later, if you want drivers, you or someone else will have to roll up 
their sleeves and dig into the DDI/DDK documentation on docs.sun.com. There is 
no way around that, no matter which elaborate schemes (user-mode, la la la) one 
comes up with.

How did Linux get so many drivers? Vendors sure weren't eager to release the 
specs! So that means *somebody* had to roll up their sleeves, reverse-engineer 
how the device worked, then figure out how to write a driver that will 
interface with the Linux kernel and with the device.

Why are we actively trying *not to* do the exact same thing on Solaris?????

If anything, writing drivers for Solaris should be far easier than for Linux!
 
 
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