Hi,

I would like to point out that manageability should be part of any web stack discussion - ask any ops guys who have had to actually deploy this stuff. Managing it usually requires a great deal of customization as current software does a poor job of dealing with it - except for ours, of course :)

Obviously, I would like Hyperic HQ to be part of any web stack management discussion, but I would settle for a documented set of best practice information.

I also notice that all the great J2EE-based app servers were left out of the discussion. I don't see how anyone can have a web tools discussion these days without including app servers in the mix.

Thanks,
John Mark Walker
Community Outreach
Hyperic, Inc.

Octave Orgeron wrote:
Hi,

I think this is a great idea and will help developers and shops that
depend on these tools. Of course the key issue I see is supportability.
A lot of developers like to see the latest and greatest versions of
these tools. However, that must be tempered with the requirement of
stability and security. So QA testing will be paramount to making this
a realistic project.
FYI, I noticed that postgres is now under /usr/postgres. It would be
great to see mysql follow the same rule. Having /usr/apache,
/usr/perl5, /usr/postgres, /usr/java, /usr/gnu, etc. are great for
keeping things organized. So I hope we would do the same for other
things such as Ruby, PHP, etc.
Octave

--- "Jason J. W. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

+1 from Me. Would be nice to see a Python-based framework included
(Django perhaps).

Also, the MySQL is a definite requirement. Calling MySQL a shoddy
product is pretty nasty and wrong-headed comment. I've got my own
gripes about Postgres, but lets just say I'd like to see both
included, and folks can use what works best (most reliably) for them.

-J

On 3/16/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

Summary

We would like to create an OpenSolaris project to
assume and enhance
the community and work originally created in Sun's
CoolStack project
as part of the CoolTools project.  This project will
assume all of
the CoolStack components, including Apache HTTP
Server, MySQL
Database Server, Perl, PHP, Ruby, Rails, Squid and
others.  The
existing CoolStack forums will be retired and
replaced with
discussions at OpenSolaris.org.
+1 from me, just one suggestion:

ditch the MySQL DB as fast as possible and replace it with
PostgreSQL.
MySQL DB is an extremely shoddy product, besides, PostgreSQL is
much easier to deploy and use.
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