> And the awful stereotypes come alive!  This sounds
> like
> a bad B-movie (is there any other kind :-) with a
> plot
> that combines the following cliche's
> 
> o  It was hard for me to learn, therefore it
>  should
> be hard for everyone else to use,
> 
> o  The only tool I have is a hammer, therefore
>  all
> my problems must be nails, and
> 
>       o  Job security through obscurity
> e more modern "ip" tool makes me more productive in
> solving
> my business critical problems, what value is there in
> being
> retro-macho and restricting myself to less efficient
> tools?
> Instead of "least common denominator" sysadmin, maybe
> it would
> be more productive to invest in improving the
> baseline.  And
> isn't that what this discussion is really about?

Wow. I don't think that movie's budget would ever get approved!

The thing is this:

if I can learn once, and use anywhere (System V on all System V platforms),

and if I can write once, and use anywhere (again, System V on all System V 
platforms)

ergo I am more productive, and ergo it is easier for me to have to learn only 
once.

There is no "machism" involved... unless we count using one's brain, being 
practical, and being a thinker as being "macho".

Heck, I can even leverage that "obsolete", "old" knowledge on the 
wow-oh-so-up-with-the-times-high-tech-and-snazzy-Linux:

bzip2 -dc filename.tar.bz2 | tar xvf -

will work *anywhere* (System V thinking)

versus

gtar xvfz filename.tar.bz2

which will not even work (GNU, implementing tools inside of other tools, 
stifling flexibility)

or

gtar xvfz filename.tar.gz

which is directly dependent on the GNU toolchain (aka a perfect example of your 
"if all I have is a hammer..." statement).

And that was just a *trivial* example.
 
 
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