Dennis Clarke wrote:
Manoj Joseph wrote:
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
In addition apart from complete SVR4 packaging for
ON base already present in 0.6, next release will also add
packaging for more FOSS stuff - aim is to get full packaging
done by 0.7.
To Moinak Ghosh and team.
This is a staggeringly beautiful release. Simply put, it is a
brilliant shining example of a perfectly viable community based
OpenSolaris based distribution.
Well, Thanks!
Moinak, let me know if there is anything I can do to help, at least
from an infrastructure perspective as well as whatever else. I did
a significant upgrade here in the Blastwave stack this weekend and
am now sporting a full snv_63 collection of build servers. These are
for community usage and accounts are free to those that need them.
Right now building an testing a LiveCD requires very much a local
machine. One
does not want to be downloading CD images from remote build machine.
However
as there is a move towards better installability and remote
repositories having
additional build env will help. Something like a BeleniX zone that
can be used to
build and test some software.
I guess at some point, you would reach a point where you can't have
everything on a single DVD.
True. Though with compression one DVD can probably contain about 10G
of software.
I think that Martin Bochniq did something like this with marTux and
once you boot it you see that there is multiple gig of open source
software in there. All of it was taken from the Blastwave build
stack months ago.
Yes, using lofi compression.
Can I make a suggestion ?
[...]
problem perspective, to setup a catalog with md5 sigs etc that allow
the entire operating system to be dragged down and installed
package by package. I want to look closely at BeleniX 0.6 today
and then see if SVR4 package prototypes exist or not. Really, I
don't see a modern OS on the market that still ships as a stack
of old-fashioned DVD's or thirty five CDROM's. Putting and end
to the multiple DVD download trauma sooner than later would be a
decent concept I think. Certainly after we add a few thousand
open source software packages onto the distro.
Just a suggestion however :-)
This is something that I have been pondering as well. Something like
a System
Rescue CD with the addition of an Installer as well. And you should
be able to
put this on a USB pendrive as well which will allow one of the
package sources
to be a local CD/DVD media.
BeleniX 0.6 does have all the package prototypes for the ON base
packages.
[...]
Perhaps, then, the packages from the BeleniX repository could be used
on other Opensolaris distributions (SXCE, SXDE...) which support SVR4
packaging and on Solaris. pkg-get or something similar could be used
to get the packages...
Maybe it would be better if we get behind one distro and one vision
as opposed to flying all over the place with multiple fractured
projects. Keep in mind that I do NOT see Solaris Express as a
community release. That is a product beta release from Sun and
not a community release. BeleniX is the *real* thing and I don't
care who you work for or who pays the bills. Does anyone ask me
where I get my money for Blastwave? No. People just use it.
So maybe a bit of harmony here would help.
Again, just a suggestion.
SVR4 packaging is quite excellent in the set of features it provides.
But there are
a few missing bits that modern requirements demand. Those can be
added on to
the existing base, for eg. pkg-get. Initially there was a plan to use
Pkgsrc in BeleniX
but that idea was dropped after much deliberation, rather Pkgbuild,
pkg-get et. al.
provide the initial blocks for building an advanced Binary, Source,
Remote
packaging system with auto-update/upgrade and other features. This
will benefit
all distros.
Regards,
Moinak.
To begin with there will be source packaging based on Pkgbuild, JDS
CBE and Spec Files Extra repository like Emerge. Binary repository
has to be looked at
subsequently. pkg-get is already included from 0.5 onwards so
Blastwave packages can also be used.
This makes me happy because you are not throwing away years of work
that have already been done by the community.
Dennis Clarke
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