> > Why would you be even selling a desktop aimed at a user with Solaris 10
> > 11/06? why don't you want till Indiana, which is actually geared to that
> > market along with support infrastructure by way of telephone and
> > software updates.
> 
> No, I have not decided on Solaris 10 11/16. I have also been exposed
> to the most recent developer editions.  Indiana sounds promising.

Agreed. But if you want to help Indiana - its probably best that you
help out, it is a community project after all.

> > No, but before you drive a car you read, take pratical driving leasons
> > then you sit a test to get your licence. You just don't simply go out,
> > purchase a car and drive.
> 
> Most of those who read and post in this forum are technical people,
> who are by nature disciplined individuals. You have become what you
> are by virtue of the fact that there has been a certain upbringing in
> your lives, there has been discipline, you are guys who read the
> manuals. But outside your arena are people, who are the ones who buy
> what you create, who are quite unlike you.  People who go indepth on
> consumer behaviour and do a lot of research on consumers would better
> understand the attitude that I have described.

Actually, that is rather presumptuous. My experience with computers only
started by virtue of running an Amiga 500 and trying to get Kindwords
working so I could type a letter to my nana about the new computer mum
and dad bought.

As a family, my dad, whose only experience was selling computers for
Burroughs (before it was bought out by Sperry and became UNISYS) 12 or
so years prior. My father and I worked through the Kindwords manual
provide to us which came as part of the Amiga package - and we learned
gradually how to use it. It took time, and patience but after a year I
was wizzing around doing all manner of things on my flash new Amiga - I
thought it was the bee's knees.

I am by no means an intelligent or disciplined person, but if at the age
of 9 I learned how to master Kindwords on the Amiga, I think its a small
thing to ask for end users at the very least, understand how to navigate
around their computer - I mean, bloody heck, before Windows, end users
were taught archaic codes for Lotus 1-2-3, DOS commands in terms of
copying files from their hard disk to their floppy disk, how to unzip
stuff - all this as part of a computer training course my old man took
as part of his management degree around 15 years ago.

> > > And to Open Solaris: Complexity is your business, none of my business.
> > > I, as a user, don't care. I don't want to read. Now, give me a solaris
> > > computer, easy.
> >
> > Why should I gove you a solaris computer that is easy; if you choose not
> > to read then you, by your lack of action are saying that you're content
> > with ignorance and content with Windows (or what ever you're running).
> >
> 
> I repeat:
> Most of those who read and post in this forum are technical people,
> who are by nature disciplined individuals. You have become what you
> are by virtue of the fact that there has been a certain upbringing in
> your lives, there has been discipline, you are guys who read the
> manuals. But outside your arena are people, who are the ones who buy
> what you create, who are quite unlike you.  People who go indepth on
> consumer behaviour and do a lot of research on consumers would better
> understand the attitude that I have described.
> 
> 
> ( And Mathew, that is not me who is so rude, it is the person I am
> going to sell a Solaris computer that I am building )

But then thing is, I'm not disciplined; most of my books at home are not
IT related, most of them are philosophy, religion, politics etc. IT
per-say take up a very small component of my life - I certainly don't
have the time or intention of learning massive amounts of Solaris stuff,
but I have stuffed my head with enough knowledge that I'm not going to
have a panic attack if I suddenly lose my GUI.

Quite frankly, not to sound elitist, but if it means that Solaris gets
15% of the market, but the 15% are those who are willing to pick up a
book, willing to learn, willing to ask questions - then its alot better
than having 40% of the marketplace with idiots who are unwilling to
improve their skills.

Heck, I can give multiple examples. 3 years I knew jack about wine, now
I have a keen interest. 10 years ago I knew jack about *NIX, but thanks
to a few books I now know enough to get my way around. 5 years ago my
self confidence was so low I used to find a hole and want to hide myself
in it, here I am 5 years late and able to manage a group of people when
required.

The fact is, you can improve. The question isn't whether you can, but
whether you're willing to put in the work to make it possible.

Matthew

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