Alan DuBoff wrote:

>The next meeting of SVOSUG will feature a presentation by the Xorg group, 
>notably Alan Coopersmith, showing the latest Xorg changes and/or what is 
>in store, but to also show Compiz.
>
>Your comments got me to thinking, and I have really come to the conclusion 
>that Solaris has made some incredible improvements on the desktop, IMO.
>
>1) The new-boot architecture brought us into the modern age of booting.
>
>2) Xorg replaced Xsun as the X server, and we have more support for video 
>than we ever had.
>
>3) RealPlayer - This was a long and hard battle, and finally we have a 
>RealPlayer that is included in Solaris and/or can be added to OpenSolaris.
>
>4) Flash...another long and hard battle which I was involved in before I 
>joined Sun. We have had some problems with the current Flash 9 being 
>delivered, but it is out now and we're in ok shape on this, IMO.
>
>5) NWAM - this will change the way folks use their laptops, the way they 
>connect, and will elliminate much of the confusion in system configuration 
>that prevents new folks from being able to use their systems more easily.
>
>6) JDS - while not my favorite desktop, it has moved Solaris away from the 
>old CDE, and this is good for many of the new adopters of 
>Solaris/OpenSolaris. There have been quite a few developments in JDS and 
>quite a bit has changed.
>
>7) Additional desktop software such as GIMP, gphoto, evince, etc...this 
>has made it easier for the bulk of folks to use their Solaris/OpenSolaris 
>systems to interact with web work, image editing, and incorporating their 
>digital pics.
>
>8) StarOffice - was not even being built for Solaris on x86 when I joined 
>Sun more than 4 years ago. It has been packaged and on the system for the 
>past 2 years at least. This is a huge improvement and we have an office 
>suite that allows us to function in the real world.
>
>9) Mozilla, Firefox, Thunderbird - also not being built for 
>Solaris/OpenSolaris when I came to Sun. I pounded on the folks responsible 
>for it and made them change their ways by starting to build the packages 
>and distributing them on my own. We have current versions in new builds 
>now, and it's setup with flash to work. This is a HUGE improvement over 
>what we had 2 years ago.
>
>10) wifi - people laughed when you mentioned wifi on Solaris a couple 
>years ago. Now we have several decent drivers that allow us to connect 
>over wireless networks, and using WEP as well.
>
>I can probably think of more, given time, but this list above I believe 
>represents an incredible leap for Solaris, and certainly on x86. Sun has 
>shown that they are in the x86 space for the long haul, even the execs 
>speak it on stage when they give presentations these days.
>
>Do you really think that this is all a part of the "basics"? These, IMO, 
>are huge improvements to bring out system/desktop to the masses, and 
>Solaris/OpenSolaris continues to move forward.
>
>--
>  
>
can I suggest considering the following items?
1) a current, working and maintained port of eclipse
2) kde (much more powerful, lightweight and usable than gnome, IMO)
3) the Reply-to header in its lists :-)
those are all topics that some kind third party soul sometimes provides,
thus they shouldn't really require a lot of effort to merge in Opensolaris
(especially item n. 3)
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