On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 16:45 +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 04:19 -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote:
> 
> > I do wonder why we need to have a different GNOME desktop? Well, I
> know 
> > why we do it (i.e., JDS), but I'm not sure why we should. It only
> diverges 
> > us from the mainstream, and makes things different. Seems better to 
> > leverage the mainstream GNOME project to me, and be the same, the
> Ubuntu 
> > uses a stock GNOME desktop, AFAICT.
> 
> It doesn't really, Ubuntu have a whole ream of local patches just like
> we do, and other distros like SuSE have a lot more.  They arguably do
> a
> better job of getting theirs upstream, but they also have the
> advantage
> of being Just Another Linux.  It often takes longer to get the GNOME
> community to buy into Solaris patches, particuarly if they also happen
> to change the way things work on Linux.

Or some of the time the patches made are for components that are going
to be completely re-written :)

> > It confuses me that zfs has been out for 
> > about a year and a half and we don't see our desktop folks doing
> that type 
> > of simple integration. Being able to take snapshots, list
> information on 
> > zfs filesystems, or getting the status of a zpool, those are all
> things 
> > that should be available for the user.
> 
> I agree, and we have had people working on ZFS desktop integration
> prototypes on and off over the past couple of years.  But as always
> it's
> a question of resources and priorities, and as yet it just hasn't been
> made a high enough one for us to drive to completion.  (There's
> nothing
> that says Sun has to do the work, of course.)

Hmm, thats assuming one doesn't want to actually make Solaris a success
either on the desktop or for the Sun Ray. Imagine, end user in 'very big
corporation of america' deletes file, then is able to roll back with a
click of a mouse - no interaction with the system admin needed. There
are a heap of scenarios I could possibly rectum pluck where the benefits
to Sun for 'customer selling points' would be alot higher than a sole
individual.

Mathew

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